pinner Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 You what? OK, it works like this. Anyone is free to affiliate to any religion or none. How does anyone 'benchmark' the various options, though? Is there an objective reference system that can determine whether a religion's own value system is acceptable or not? Yes. Well before any religions existed, there were the Seven Noachide Laws. For more about them. see websites listed at http://uk.ask.com/web?q=%22seven+noachide+laws%22&sm=adv&dm=all&qsrc=196&o=0&l=dir. Comments on this concept are welcome (but not if you only want to argue that yours is the only valid religion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 You what? OK, it works like this. Anyone is free to affiliate to any religion or none. How does anyone 'benchmark' the various options, though? Is there an objective reference system that can determine whether a religion's own value system is acceptable or not? Yes. Well before any religions existed, there were the Seven Noachide Laws. For more about them. see websites listed at http://uk.ask.com/web?q=%22seven+noachide+laws%22&sm=adv&dm=all&qsrc=196&o=0&l=dir. Comments on this concept are welcome (but not if you only want to argue that yours is the only valid religion). Err, try no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 ''Respect family values - Do not be sexually perverse'' Who gets to decide what's perverse and what isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien52 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 You what? OK, it works like this. Anyone is free to affiliate to any religion or none. How does anyone 'benchmark' the various options, though? Is there an objective reference system that can determine whether a religion's own value system is acceptable or not? Yes. Well before any religions existed, there were the Seven Noachide Laws. For more about them. see websites listed at http://uk.ask.com/web?q=%22seven+noachide+laws%22&sm=adv&dm=all&qsrc=196&o=0&l=dir. Comments on this concept are welcome (but not if you only want to argue that yours is the only valid religion). I think that this is the most stupid thing I have ever read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I think that this is the most stupid thing I have ever read.Really? You can't read many of the comments on SF then. All the Noachide offers is a simpified form of the 10 commandments, what's so ridiculous about a set of moral rules that includes things like do not kill, steal, or commit incest (obviously, the latter might be a concern to some)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHsheff Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Well before any religions existed, there were the Seven Noachide Laws. That sentence alone is enough to show that you don't know what you're talking about so therefore this thread is never going to get off the ground in the way that you hope: a) Religion has been around for as long as humans have been and b) The Seven Noachide Laws form part of the Jewish religion. What was your original point meant to be? Where did you get the idea for the thread from? That might make for a more interesting discussion point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lh123 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 In Judaism, if a non Jew applies the 7 laws of Noah, then he will enter Paradise. However, this will be a lesser paradise than Jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinner Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 The Seven Noachide Laws form part of the Jewish religion. Well, not quite. The Seven apply to everyone- Noah was not a Jew, as Judaism dates only from Mount Sinai many years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purdyamos Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 When I looked them up there was a law about not criticising God, so how does that tally with them not being religious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadnBad Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 You what? OK, it works like this. Anyone is free to affiliate to any religion or none. How does anyone 'benchmark' the various options, though? Is there an objective reference system that can determine whether a religion's own value system is acceptable or not? Yes. Well before any religions existed, there were the Seven Noachide Laws. For more about them. see websites listed at http://uk.ask.com/web?q=%22seven+noachide+laws%22&sm=adv&dm=all&qsrc=196&o=0&l=dir. Comments on this concept are welcome (but not if you only want to argue that yours is the only valid religion). Hmmm you say before religions existed but what you really mean is before the abrahamic religions existed and yet the subject at hand is unequivicably linked with the jewish faith. The only way you can look at this subject as being pre-abrahamic religions is if you consider that noah lived before the religions were formalised, but then we have the problem that the idea of noah and the flood comes from these religions and so cannot be discussed as a seperate issue. I really can't think what your aim is with this subject. Perhaps you should just ask which religion has the best value system and let us discuss it from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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