Conrod Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I'll have a little more sympathy for your view when Abu Hamza turns up to the next public BNP meeting and is welcomed to speak from the platform.Would any person or group who is clearly there to cause disruption really be welcome at a political party's public meeting? If Labour can throw people out of meetings, why not the BNP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Seems to me theres a bit of hypocrasy going on here. One minute its demands for free speech and democracy. Then its the bnp can choose or keep out who they want? Im sure youll all be allowing the radical muslims a platform to shout at returning servicemen, free speech and all that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Seems to me theres a bit of hypocrasy going on here. One minute its demands for free speech and democracy. Then its the bnp can choose or keep out who they want? Im sure youll all be allowing the radical muslims a platform to shout at returning servicemen, free speech and all that? You perhaps miss the point. Posters are agreeing that the BNP should be stifled, then criticising the BNP for its alleged poor attitude to free speech - hypocrisy is indeed the issue, and one I am trying to understand how people justify their bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 You perhaps miss the point. Posters are agreeing that the BNP should be stifled, then criticising the BNP for its alleged poor attitude to free speech - hypocrisy is indeed the issue, and one I am trying to understand how people justify their bias. Nobody has stated that they want the BNPee to be stifled, most people agree that the electorate should be allowed to hear their real views. The problem is that whenever they get a platform, such as Question Time, they evade all questions about their filthy racist views and the other panel members spend too much time trying to expose their filthy racist views. The solution, don't even bother inviting them, they just spoil everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 If Labour can throw people out of meetings, why not the BNP? I never said they shouldn't be able to-remember it's the BNP complaining, not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Posters are agreeing that the BNP should be stifled, then criticising the BNP for its alleged poor attitude to free speech Ps: just for the record, I've always supported the BNP's right to access the democratic platform even though they'd never support mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INTERVIEWER Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I'll have a little more sympathy for your view when Abu Hamza turns up to the next public BNP meeting and is welcomed to speak from the platform. If Abu Hamza stands as a candidate at a UK election which the BNP is contesting, then I'm absolutely certain that the BNP candidate would greatly desire the opportunity to debate with him at a public hustings. Unlike the Labour party, the BNP believes that grown adults have the democratic and moral right to question and listen to all of the candidates at an election who are asking for their vote. Not just those 'approved' by the Labour party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 People are still hung up about this hustings thing. Im sure even tho its democratic, speakers still get invited or not. Apart from the bnp what other minority parties were invited or not invited? Anybody know? Im sure not every minority party was invited to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 If Abu Hamza stands as a candidate at a UK election which the BNP is contesting, then I'm absolutely certain that the BNP candidate would greatly desire the opportunity to debate with him at a public hustings. Why not invite him to speak at your next AGM-take the wind out of his sails and prove your commitment to democracy? How about something even simpler-welcoming non whites to your meetings? I once asked if I could attend the last Sheffield one, but was asked if I was 'indigenous to these isles' before being refused? What difference does that make to champions of free speech? Unlike the Labour party, the BNP believes that grown adults have the democratic and moral right to question and listen to all of the candidates at an election who are asking for their vote. Not just those 'approved' by the Labour party. I wouldnt particularly champion any aspects of the Labour party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INTERVIEWER Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Nobody has stated that they want the BNPee to be stifled, most people agree that the electorate should be allowed to hear their real views. Good to hear that. We are in agreement on this. The problem is that whenever they get a platform, such as Question Time, they evade all questions about their filthy racist views and the other panel members spend too much time trying to expose their filthy racist views. The solution, don't even bother inviting them, they just spoil everything. Hang on! In the space of a few short sentences you now adopt an attitude of not inviting the BNP to speak publicly - 'no platform' - thus stifling a legal and democratic political party... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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