LordChaverly Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 The link between poverty and ill-health is very well defined LordC, as I'm sure you're aware. There is indeed a link between poverty and ill-health, but there is in my view also a link between the claim of 'ill-health' and access to the benefit system, not least because if successful such claimants will receive more benefit perks than dole claimants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Star Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Why does it link claiming a benefit with not working full time? It's entirely possible to work full time and still claim some sort of benefit. Yep, child benefit for example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaimani Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 There is indeed a link between poverty and ill-health, but there is in my view also a link between the claim of 'ill-health' and access to the benefit system, not least because if successful such claimants will receive more benefit perks than dole claimants. I'd say it's the same link. only 'poor' people really go out of their way to cheat the system of benefits. you never get millionaires tweaking benefits. most of these people would be worse off working so do the next best thing. this is more on a 'broken system' I'd say rather than these people. if you can you will. human nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordChaverly Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 I'd say it's the same link. only 'poor' people really go out of their way to cheat the system of benefits. you never get millionaires tweaking benefits. most of these people would be worse off working so do the next best thing. this is more on a 'broken system' I'd say rather than these people. if you can you will. human nature. 'If you can, you will' - you make a good point here. Indeed, it explains the principal fault at the heart of our benefit system, i.e. ease of access to benefits. They can and so they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaimani Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 'If you can, you will' - you make a good point here. Indeed, it explains the principal fault at the heart of our benefit system, i.e. ease of access to benefits. They can and so they do. that applies for billionaires who do all kinds of tricks to save on millions of taxes. i understand this is far from the same but it's not a uniquely 'benefits cheats' thing. the whole system, beginning with a sense of responsibility, for yourself and others, needs to be over hauled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordChaverly Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 that applies for billionaires who do all kinds of tricks to save on millions of taxes. i understand this is far from the same but it's not a uniquely 'benefits cheats' thing. the whole system, beginning with a sense of responsibility, for yourself and others, needs to be over hauled. Many, if not most, of these billionaires do contribute substantial amounts in taxes and also through their endeavours create employment and economic growth. Conversely, many of these benefit claimants contribute nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Many, if not most, of these billionaires do contribute substantial amounts in taxes and also through their endeavours create employment and economic growth. Conversely, many of these benefit claimants contribute nothing. Perhaps not in financial terms no - but as I'm sure you know Chaverley, the worth or value of people cannot and should not be measured on wealth alone. People are so much more than what they earn or pay wpuldn't you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaimani Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Many, if not most, of these billionaires do contribute substantial amounts in taxes and also through their endeavours create employment and economic growth. Conversely, many of these benefit claimants contribute nothing. no i agree with that totally, money wise. i was just saying that the idea of getting all you can and pushing a systems to the limit is everywhere. but, yeah, rather the billionaire non dom than the benefit cheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordChaverly Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Perhaps not in financial terms no - but as I'm sure you know Chaverley, the worth or value of people cannot and should not be measured on wealth alone. People are so much more than what they earn or pay wpuldn't you agree? I was merely responding to a specific point about relative financial contributions to society (or lack of them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I was merely responding to a specific point about relative financial contributions to society (or lack of them). Yes - and I was just pointing out that people are worth more than money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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