melthebell Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 A. The existance of Right wing extremism and racist nutters is news to you? B. I cant see anyone apologising for this disgusting behaviour. Who are you referring to? no i meant THIS stories news to me.......sigh and you and steiner...........2 of the usual suspects, laugh it off as its some sort of game...........well it isnt, people die and get seriously hurt on the streets in the battle of the left and right.........even the right and "normal thinking" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Good lord mel did you bother to read my post? If not please do me the courtesy of reading it. I refer to the people in the article as racist nutters, crazy and nasty. How is that acting apologetic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 ... left and right.........even the right and "normal thinking" Where do you fit Mel? What are the causes of the rise of the right? Oh, please don't label me... I'm on this side at the moment! (actually very centre! In the rational section!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 i dont think its as illegal as they make out tbh.or they dont act on it, neo nazisms thriving in places like germany.........and the old eastern block countries The scariest stuff I've seen is from Russia itself. Seriously nasty neo nazis out there, there've been a lot of murders by neo nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I thought neo nazism (using nazi symbols, praising hitler, holocaust denial etc) were illegal in germany and austria? Why don't they just lock them up? The Nazi party are illegal. Using the Swastika as an emblem is also illegal. I'm not sure that it is so easy to ban an ideology though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 Where do you fit Mel? What are the causes of the rise of the right? Oh, please don't label me... I'm on this side at the moment! (actually very centre! In the rational section!) A: im an anarchist, ive always hated the left AND the right, on demos and protests ive always laughed at the likes of militant and socialist workers party that always use them to sell their papers but do bugger all else. on the uk front tho to me the most dangerous are the right (i know ive been attacked by em and fought them), ive spent 25 years fully independently anti racist / fascist, a member of NO anti facist groups. thats me being honest............pity it cant be said for others on here B: There is NO major cause of the far right, theres always been a far right and always will, doesnt mean its right. theres reasons why people dabble with and vote for stupid parties (mainly immigration) which in a lot of cases is based on lies and half truths and some people fall for them. on a whole tho the far right are hardcore supporters, not dabblers, and as i said before its a dangerous game.......people do die, people do get hurt and people do live in misery because of it, its not something to be fliappant about like the earlier posts in this thread. C: as for you?, sometimes i wonder, sometimes i think im wrong, then get it acknowledged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 The Nazi party are illegal. Using the Swastika as an emblem is also illegal. I'm not sure that it is so easy to ban an ideology though. as andy said the symbols and praisings are supposed to be........but theres an ever growing neo nazi scene to show it hasnt been destroyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 think again, looks like they are gaining more and more influence, still the same old thugs by the sounds tho nothing changes Very dubious. http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-63175-3.html A village sign at the entrance to Jamel bearing the far-right slogan "Free, Social, National." Someone seems to be trying too hard to see something they want to see. Its like saying the use of the letter "K" means you support the Ku Klux Klan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 ... C: as for you?, sometimes i wonder, sometimes i think im wrong, then get it acknowledged. Please show me! I just handle things differently to you. I know at times it puzzles you, but you don't have any proof because it's not true. So am I on your list of usual suspects? And you talk of Orwellian society... LOL ... B: There is NO major cause of the far right, theres always been a far right and always will, doesnt mean its right. theres reasons why people dabble with and vote for stupid parties (mainly immigration) which in a lot of cases is based on lies and half truths and some people fall for them. on a whole tho the far right are hardcore supporters, not dabblers, and as i said before its a dangerous game.......people do die, people do get hurt and people do live in misery because of it, its not something to be fliappant about like the earlier posts in this thread. ... So are you saying people are born that way? The far right is rampant in every religion, every country. It's not isolated to any single group! History has shown that it rises, therefore there must be reasons why... In my opinion, people like you aggravate and give fascists a reason. How many troll threads have you got open just to argue and fight! You don't debate, you say daft things (often trolling or just plain demeaning), or you shout the odds! But please carry on... You obviously are very clever and know what you are doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 The Nazi party are illegal. Using the Swastika as an emblem is also illegal. I'm not sure that it is so easy to ban an ideology though. I did just have a quick google about it and from the links i skimmed through it does sound like they get around the laws by using similar but not the exact same symbols etc. It does seem to be a mainly old east german issue, I do think the way the germans handled reunification was very poor, spent a fortune but all on fancy civic buildings and transport infrastructure etc but bugger all on incentivising western buisnesses to set up in the east so unemployment is still shocking in large parts of the east which sadly makes a fertile environment for neo-nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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