Grahame Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 So tell me then - do you go a bowshot from the city walls with a wooden paddle and relieve yourself into the hole taht you dig with the paddle every time you need to answer the call of nature? I mean, if humankind is just as bad now as it was then - then we should carry on with this fine tradition as after all it says to do so in the Bible. Or perhaps we can agree that indoor plumbing, sewers and privies are a better bet. You are confusing technology with morality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 TBH, even in these secularised times, I don't think our Christian past has fared us badly and I'm glad I've grown up in a country that has had that Christian heritage. Just think how bad it could be, if some other religion had been dominant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweatshopboy Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Crushed testicles? Seems a bit harsh to make this a religious issue. Looks like I'm giving up crushed nuts on my cornet this Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 So god created us as "selfish" and "lustful" (without both of which the human race would not now exist) and then changed his mind and decided we shouldn't be selfish and lustful? You said "Yeah, and 'new' testament, isn't exactly up-to-date either." and I replied with words to the effect that human nature is unchanging. If you have something else you want to ask then feel free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtroad Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 It's not but it is the new testament that christianity is based upon. That depends which branch of Christianity you are talking about. 10 Commandments are old testament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 You are confusing technology with morality. Not in the slightest Grahame. Are you going to answer the question please? It's a reasonable one to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I think it's strange, doesn't say there's anything wrong in having whoopie with your brother's wife. But pulling out... oh no no It’s Genesis 38:9-10: “Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord; so He took his life also.” and for some reason I always knew... football is the devil's game, actually I'm starting to think heaven is rather under populated atm. What is your question? This is about inheritance that went to the first-born child and Onans possessions would have gone to his brothers side of the family. What Onan was doing was wrong in Gods sight. Basically these people were wicked and what I said about human nature is still happening today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyR Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I like the closing paragraphs: "As a final note, I know that nine of these 11 cite the Old Testament, which Christianity doesn’t necessarily adhere to as law. To which I say: If you’re going to ignore the section of Leviticus that bans about tattoos, pork, shellfish, round haircuts, polyester and football, how can you possibly turn around and quote Leviticus 18:22 (“You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”) as irrefutable law?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Not in the slightest Grahame. Are you going to answer the question please? It's a reasonable one to ask. You will have to rephrase the question because I don't understand it. As was said earlier these were Old Testament and this situation is about hygiene which is why in our lifetime people had the privy at the bottom of the garden, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I like the closing paragraphs: "As a final note, I know that nine of these 11 cite the Old Testament, which Christianity doesn’t necessarily adhere to as law. To which I say: If you’re going to ignore the section of Leviticus that bans about tattoos, pork, shellfish, round haircuts, polyester and football, how can you possibly turn around and quote Leviticus 18:22 (“You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”) as irrefutable law?" Because it is a common theme running through the whole Bible starting with Sodom and Gomorrah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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