spindrift Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 The charge and the sentence are inequitable. Killing someone is treated more leniantly than not even hurting anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 The charge and the sentence are inequitable. Killing someone is treated more leniantly than not even hurting anyone. He should have been given a longer stretch then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 He should have been given a longer stretch then. Welcome to the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisdan Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I didn't read the OP. But what ever this discussion is about. I'm against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 More on the chap who threw the fire extinguisher, same judge, different case. Hussain’s minicab pulled in front of a truck on Bishopsgate and the vehicles crashed into each other. The impact left one of the passengers, Toyoko Rask, a 66-year-old grandmother, with fatal injuries. Her 3-year-old grand-daughter suffered severe facial injuries and her 6-month-old baby brother a fractured skull. HUSSAIN pleaded guilty at an earlier hearing to Careless Driving, Fraud by False Representation, and No Insurance. Imprisoning Hussain for 12 months, Judge Geoffrey Rivlin QC, said the sentence should be a deterrent to “spell out to unlicensed drivers that it will be imprisonment.” Lob a fire extinguisher off a building and hurt nobody=32 months. Unlicensed driver who kills someone = 12 months. Unfortunately Judge Rivlin’s pious assertion that "the courts have a duty to provide the community with such protection from violence as they can" is, when it comes to reckless drivers who kill other road users, complete crap. You have not considered intent have you. Hussein had no intent to cause injury to the passengers, unlike Mr Extinguisher who clearly did have intent to injure. You have to prove both actus reus and mens rea in criminal cases of these sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 More on the chap who threw the fire extinguisher, same judge, different case. Hussain’s minicab pulled in front of a truck on Bishopsgate and the vehicles crashed into each other. The impact left one of the passengers, Toyoko Rask, a 66-year-old grandmother, with fatal injuries. Her 3-year-old grand-daughter suffered severe facial injuries and her 6-month-old baby brother a fractured skull. HUSSAIN pleaded guilty at an earlier hearing to Careless Driving, Fraud by False Representation, and No Insurance. Imprisoning Hussain for 12 months, Judge Geoffrey Rivlin QC, said the sentence should be a deterrent to “spell out to unlicensed drivers that it will be imprisonment.” Lob a fire extinguisher off a building and hurt nobody=32 months. Unlicensed driver who kills someone = 12 months. Unfortunately Judge Rivlin’s pious assertion that "the courts have a duty to provide the community with such protection from violence as they can" is, when it comes to reckless drivers who kill other road users, complete crap. Darren Hall was jailed for seven months after admitting 'wanton and furious driving causing bodily harm'. Jail for deadly cyclist The supermarket worker struck Ron-ald Turner, 84, after jumping on to a pavement to run a red light. The law is still used because there is no other appropriate legislation to prosecute cyclists who kill or seriously injure pedestrians. But Hall, of Weymouth, Dorset, is the first to be jailed for many years. Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/719063-cyclist-is-jailed-for-killing-by-1861-law#ixzz1BUMgZLBe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Darren Hall was jailed for seven months after admitting 'wanton and furious driving causing bodily harm'. Jail for deadly cyclist The supermarket worker struck Ron-ald Turner, 84, after jumping on to a pavement to run a red light. The law is still used because there is no other appropriate legislation to prosecute cyclists who kill or seriously injure pedestrians. But Hall, of Weymouth, Dorset, is the first to be jailed for many years. Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/719063-cyclist-is-jailed-for-killing-by-1861-law#ixzz1BUMgZLBe The total for pedestrians killed by cyclists on the pavement is ‘only’ 5 over nine years. 377 for cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 The total for pedestrians killed by cyclists on the pavement is ‘only’ 5 over nine years. 377 for cars. Whats the percentage of cyclists against motor vehicles. CYCLIST WHO KILLED PEDESTRIAN ESCAPES JAIL SENTENCE http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/348193/cyclist-who-killed-pedestrian-escapes-jail-sentence.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Whats the percentage of cyclists against motor vehicles. CYCLIST WHO KILLED PEDESTRIAN ESCAPES JAIL SENTENCE http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/348193/cyclist-who-killed-pedestrian-escapes-jail-sentence.html 2 cases in four years? Desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Whats the percentage of cyclists against motor vehicles. CYCLIST WHO KILLED PEDESTRIAN ESCAPES JAIL SENTENCE http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/348193/cyclist-who-killed-pedestrian-escapes-jail-sentence.html This man deliberately got on his bike, and intended to peddle! Yet gets a suspended sentance for murdering somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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