Non -Foreign Mums banned from Foreign-only playgroups..

[melthebell]

But isn't the point of all this is the fact that it was a playgroup and not an advise centre for immigrants.

 

have you ever been to a playgroup?

 

its where mothers.......and some fathers also interact and meet and chat and things

[harvey19]

No specifically not Britain thank you. 'One World' as my mate Bob used to sing.

]There will never be one world which is the same everywhere.

[VideoPro]

Didn't we have pretty much the same discussion a few months ago here?

Grumpy old white men were complaining in that one that they were prevented from attending a youth centre that held one special evening each week for teenage females from immigrant backgrounds.

 

How is this such a hard concept to grasp? Think of it like training. You don't just take a bunch of lads off the street stick a kit on them and go and beat Barca 8-0 at the nou camp do you? So you need to develope their skills before they can go and put them into practice on the pitch. So for people from all sorts of foreign backgrounds who are new here they need some coaching in all sorts of things in order to minimise the ammount of time they will take to integrate. This group provides support for them as a small part of what this church does, is volunteer staffed and is not just a childcare group, it's aimed at the mothers more. The staff are British (and Christian) and the agencies they invite in are British (police, NHS etc)

 

Once they've had their training they'll be in a better position to go out and play for real in British society.

 

Exactly. With that simple explanation, you should probably consider a teaching post in a primary school.

[harvey19]

have you ever been to a playgroup?

 

its where mothers.......and some fathers also interact and meet and chat and things

If the English woman and her child had been admitted she could have contributed and helped advise the immigrants and their children could have played with a white child.

[Halibut]

But isn't the point of all this is the fact that it was a playgroup and not an advise centre for immigrants.

 

Is there anything wrong with it being a bit of both? Sounds like a great idea to me.

[melthebell]

If the English woman and her child had been admitted she could have contributed and helped advise the immigrants and their children could have played with a white child.

BUT

as i said earlier, its set up as foriegners only, thats the rule, where does the rule bending end?

 

one minute its one brit, then two, before you know it its just another playgroup with mostly brits AND fathers

[John X]

There will never be one world which is the same everywhere.

 

Planet Nibiru?

 

But seriously though, no-one is claiming that the world will ever be the same everywhere (nor would anyone want it to be).

 

One world, as espoused by the late Bob Marley is a world where everyone has respect for each others values and culture and no-one thinks that they are any better than anyone else. Another late songwriter talked of a similar world in his song 'Imagine'.

 

John X

[andygardener]

But isn't the point of all this is the fact that it was a playgroup and not an advise centre for immigrants.

 

The Sun called it a playgroup, if you look at the website it's very much more about the mothers, with a creche attached to allow them to engage in the activities and training provided.

 

I suspect doreen and maureen or whatever they were called would have been bored rigid within five minutes had the church acceeded to their demands and let them register as the activities would have held no meaning for them being already british and already integrated.

[Kaimani]

But isn't the point of all this is the fact that it was a playgroup and not an advise centre for immigrants.

 

same thing. with funding drying out many are being integrated into one-stop shops for all services.

[DeathAxe]

think of it this way

 

if you took your child to a playgroup would there be certain cicumstances where you felt uncomfortable?

 

maybe your the only white face in a wholly black room? would you gravitate to a friendly white face? for protection? for similarities?

 

this is NOT to try and prove any race issues, its purely to try and see it from the foriegners footsteps.

 

is there specific issues they may need extra help with?

 

not being good with the language is an obvious start.

help with money?

job / benefits?

housing?

healthcare

 

all which a foreigner may struggle to know about, get help with, so going somewhere where people can point them in the right place is a start

 

then theres other things........like attitudes in life, on the street (just like some attitudes on here, just proves it) is a sure fire way to send people to seek sanctuary with "their own kind"

 

Only white face in a wholly black room? sounds like the school I went too (abbeydale grange) after 5 years of that, I have not one kind word for immigrants of a certain place.

 

On to the topic, if it's a place designed to integrate immigrants into the UK then this is a non story for the Sun. It's not really a bad thing, would lessen various problems we have here. Still though, it doesn't lessen the discontent their parents have for the locals in the UK does it?

 

What I don't agree with though is the fact that equal rights in the UK actually mean more rights for those 'discriminated' against. Hence why we have flats for blacks only, insurance companies for women only etc etc.