sues_budgie Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I guess in Prosperous areas, the common language is English. In deprived areas, there are numerous languages. In many local schools, where the immigtration levels are higher (the places where the political elite like to place migrants) there are many different languages spoken in the school. So from a teachers point of view, the problem is clear cut. If a Teacher from a Prosperous area says something, ie, "Draw a circle", everyone understands because everyone in the classroom speaks English If in the same class (poorer areas) you have many different languages, the teacher says "Draw a circle", a good percentage of the class can't speak English and so don't understand the instruction. If you went to live in China, and the Chinese Teacher couldn't speak English, the teacher would say something like "jhgjg ^%%hgj %$]oo @~#%$ ". To the local Chinese Kids that would mean something, but to an English Person who can't speak Chinese "jhgjg ^%%hgj %$]oo @~#%$ " means nothing The Chinese teacher would be going insane having to get the words "HJHBJ rtftr knjk ^%^^%v GYGUYG !!!!" to mean something to the English Person who can't speak chinese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I guess in Prosperous areas, the common language is English. In deprived areas, there are numerous languages. In many local schools, where the immigtration levels are higher (the places where the political elite like to place migrants) there are many different languages spoken in the school. So from a teachers point of view, the problem is clear cut. If a Teacher from a Prosperous area says something, ie, "Draw a circle", everyone understands because everyone in the classroom speaks English If in the same class (poorer areas) you have many different languages, the teacher says "Draw a circle", a good percentage of the class can't speak English and so don't understand the instruction. If you went to live in China, and the Chinese Teacher couldn't speak English, the teacher would say something like "jhgjg ^%%hgj %$]oo @~#%$ ". To the local Chinese Kids that would mean something, but to an English Person who can't speak Chinese "jhgjg ^%%hgj %$]oo @~#%$ " means nothing The Chinese teacher would be going insane having to get the words "HJHBJ rtftr knjk ^%^^%v GYGUYG !!!!" to mean something to the English Person who can't speak chinese :hihi: Please Sue, shut your bloody budgie up!:hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I guess in Prosperous areas, the common language is English. In deprived areas, there are numerous languages. Really. Are you sure about that? Have you been to any of our ex-mining communities, for example? They are generally pretty monocultural, deprived and characterised by poor educational achievement. Yet they will all understand an instruction like "Draw a circle". Top lesson plan, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutts Nutts Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Really. Are you sure about that? Have you been to any of our ex-mining communities, for example? They are generally pretty monocultural, deprived and characterised by poor educational achievement. Yet they will all understand an instruction like "Draw a circle". Top lesson plan, by the way. Hmmmmm.....I was lead to believe that teachers have little time on their hands for much else other than school work, even at home. You seem to have quite a lot on your hands (time that is), to do an awful lot of posting and even lowering yourself to the depths of moderating. Would the kids who you educate, be better educated if you devoted more time to them methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 :hihi: Please Sue, shut your bloody budgie up!:hihi: :hihi: Leave her alone, I was just getting the hang of double Dutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Dog Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I guess in Prosperous areas, the common language is English. In deprived areas, there are numerous languages. In many local schools, where the immigtration levels are higher (the places where the political elite like to place migrants) there are many different languages spoken in the school. So from a teachers point of view, the problem is clear cut. If a Teacher from a Prosperous area says something, ie, "Draw a circle", everyone understands because everyone in the classroom speaks English If in the same class (poorer areas) you have many different languages, the teacher says "Draw a circle", a good percentage of the class can't speak English and so don't understand the instruction. If you went to live in China, and the Chinese Teacher couldn't speak English, the teacher would say something like "jhgjg ^%%hgj %$]oo @~#%$ ". To the local Chinese Kids that would mean something, but to an English Person who can't speak Chinese "jhgjg ^%%hgj %$]oo @~#%$ " means nothing The Chinese teacher would be going insane having to get the words "HJHBJ rtftr knjk ^%^^%v GYGUYG !!!!" to mean something to the English Person who can't speak chinese Do you realise that you just said something very rude in Serbo-Croat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 As a retired teacher and former supporter of Comprehensive education, I've finally come round to the argument that Grammer Schools should be reintroduced nationwide as a lever towards social mobility and a way out of the working class and into positions of authority. We would then have a more balanced society and everyone would benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 As a retired teacher and former supporter of Comprehensive education, I've finally come round to the argument that Grammer Schools should be reintroduced nationwide as a lever towards social mobility and a way out of the working class and into positions of authority. We would then have a more balanced society and everyone would benefit. You're not - by any chance - suggesting that Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition is comprised of privileged privately-educated persons are you? The working class can kiss my ar8e, I'vegot the Foreman's job at last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 As a retired teacher and former supporter of Comprehensive education, I've finally come round to the argument that Grammer Schools should be reintroduced nationwide as a lever towards social mobility and a way out of the working class and into positions of authority. We would then have a more balanced society and everyone would benefit. +1 from me. I've spent a lifetime working in (mostly) Sheffield schools. I'm a died in the wool lefty... even though I hide it well:D I've become more and more convinced over the last ten years that a few judiciously placed Grammar Schools would make a massive difference to the city. They need to go on the east side though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Really. Are you sure about that? Have you been to any of our ex-mining communities, for example? They are generally pretty monocultural, deprived and characterised by poor educational achievement. Yet they will all understand an instruction like "Draw a circle". Top lesson plan, by the way. Lol, yeah, I'd best call up all the professionals I know from the ex-mining village where I grew up and tell them that we didn't all get degree's and good careers, we should probably just hand back our A levels and GCSE's as well as we probably just imagined that we'd passed. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/education/09/school_tables/secondary_schools/html/372_4022.stm And the neighbouring comprehensive serving some more ex-mining communities. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/education/09/school_tables/secondary_schools/html/372_4025.stm I think it's the inner city schools that have the problems generally, not the pleasant leafy villages of the ex-mining villages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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