spooky3 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 ... Clearly indicates your bigotry. you maybe right, they maybe Islamic, but the fact you used Islamic before the smoking embers die out pins you to the wall. To say "folk know" is <REMOVED> and dangerous, because in reality "folk" don't know. ... Every news broadcast i've seen has said the obvious too... Your recursive droll "pins you to the wall", what does that even mean to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Every news broadcast i've seen has said the obvious too... Your recursive droll "pins you to the wall", what does that even mean to you? If you want to make a sensible point then make it. Otherwise zip it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya1986 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Looks like the death toll is going to be a lot higher than the initial reports suggested. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/suicide-bomb-moscow-domodedovo-airport Deadly suicide bombing hits Moscow's Domodedovo airport At least 10 people killed and 20 injured in suicide bomb blast at Moscow's Domodedovo airport, initial reports say At least 20 people were killed and scores injured in a suspected suicide bomb blast at Moscow's Domodedovo airport today, local agencies reported. The Russian state news agency said 23 people died, and around 130 were injured in the explosion. A spokeswoman for the investigative committee of the federal prosecutor's office put the number of casualties at about 20, and said the cause of the blast in baggage-claim area was as yet unknown. In March last year Moscow suffered its worst attack in six years when two female suicide bombers from Russia's volatile Dagestan region set off explosives on the subway system, killing 40 people. More details soon. Beyond shocking Why do people do this why??. What did it achieve other than killing innocent people?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Doku Khamatovich Umarov's name is coming up a lot. Also under his nom de guerre Dokka Abu Usman. Best guess, his group is responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Ready to be corrected but I think radar meant that attacking Chechenya or Dagestan with what could be seen as a heavy fist could be a retaliation. So why do you think the Russians attacked in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percy filth Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I think the point is that terrorism isn't like most crimes where the investigation begins after the crime has been committed. Governments know which terrorist groups are targetting them and gather intelligence on them, possibly even involving under cover embedded agents. That is how a government can declare what state of likely danger we face and what are the likely targets. So when a terrorist attack occurs it isn't usually a great surprise to the intelligence services and the likely culprits will be well know and likely reprisals well planned. I don't envisage the Russians hanging back for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radar Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 So why do you think the Russians attacked in the first place? It probably has something to do with not wishing to allow independence to the states of north caucasus. When an army is sent in to impose rule then a state of hostility exists between the local populace and the imposing authority. It's not about what we think but what is happens when people have a grievance they want to settle. An attempt has already been made to to portray this as an Islamic issue which is incorrect, it is an issue of a people choosing to fight for their right to be independent of a colonising power, and the colonising power using ruthless tactics to subdue resistance, history is being made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 It probably has something to do with not wishing to allow independence to the states of north caucasus. When an army is sent in to impose rule then a state of hostility exists between the local populace and the imposing authority. It's not about what we think but what is happens when people have a grievance they want to settle. An attempt has already been made to to portray this as an Islamic issue which is incorrect, it is an issue of a people choosing to fight for their right to be independent of a colonising power, and the colonising power using ruthless tactics to subdue resistance, history is being made. Pretty much like Northern Ireland in the 1980s. Although in NI's case the majority of the local population didn't want independence from a colonising power. They were quite happy to be British. It was a bunch of terrorists with guns, bombs, loud mouths, and a minority view point who wanted to impose their values on the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 It probably has something to do with not wishing to allow independence to the states of north caucasus. When an army is sent in to impose rule then a state of hostility exists between the local populace and the imposing authority. It's not about what we think but what is happens when people have a grievance they want to settle. An attempt has already been made to to portray this as an Islamic issue which is incorrect, it is an issue of a people choosing to fight for their right to be independent of a colonising power, and the colonising power using ruthless tactics to subdue resistance, history is being made. Islamist do the same the world over, set up shop in a nation, start demanding their own laws and then their own state before turning to violence, generally in areas of oil resources, production and transportation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Can you name a nation that has become islamic recently? Not where they were already islamic and became stricter, but an actual change from non-islam to islam. I call islamist, those who are fighting for control not just because the government is islamic. How recently? The struggles continue in Nigeria, Sudan, Afghanistan, China and Caucusus to name but a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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