Who is the worst Tax shirker?

[Geezer Innit]

I'll make sure the ambulance driver, doctors and nurses know about your views next time you are run over.

 

Quite simply because tax pays for the care of the sick, education for children and the infrastructure of society.

 

The state doesn't have a monopoly on redistributing income, or on funding social services. If I paid less tax I could fund those services directly, and in a far more efficient way than the state currently does.

[Wildcat]

It also pays for illegal wars, nuclear weapons, police brutality, massive waste, and John Prescott's croquet lawn.

 

Willingly paying for more of that is anti-social and immoral.

 

That is a fraction of what it is paid on.

 

You are just using that argument to justify shirking your responsibility to contribute to welfare for the sick and paying for the infrastructure of society.

 

There is nothing moral about your argument.

[Bigthumb]

Quite simply because tax pays for the care of the sick, education for children and the infrastructure of society.

 

Deliberate tax avoidance is anti-social and immoral.

 

No it isn't otherwise successive governments wouldn't have encouraged us to avoid tax by getting married, contributing to pension schemes, buying ISAs, contributing to charities etc. There is absolutely nothing wrong with tax avoidance. Indeed Sheffield Council has given many of its parks charitable status in order to avoid tax.

 

Tax evassion is quite a different matter.

 

I think you are confusing anti-social activity with your own personal political hang-ups.

[Wildcat]

The state doesn't have a monopoly on redistributing income, or on funding social services. If I paid less tax I could fund those services directly, and in a far more efficient way than the state currently does.

 

Errm no you couldn't.

[mossdog]

Hi mossdog.

 

You have Nulabour and Socialist mixed up there.

 

Not an easy mistake to make.

I think that really they are both the same! it is just that some now want to distance themselves from the seedier side of the Great Teflons time in office and call themselves Socialists and pretend that Nulabour has nothing to do with them,

No doubt about it, the Teflon is a smart cookie and leaves the current lad in charge for dead on all fronts!

[Wildcat]

No it isn't otherwise successive governments wouldn't have encouraged us to avoid tax by getting married, contributing to pension schemes, buying ISAs, contributing to charities etc. There is absolutely nothing wrong with tax avoidance. Indeed Sheffield Council has given many of its parks charitable status in order to avoid tax.

 

Tax evassion is quite a different matter.

 

I think you are confusing anti-social activity with your own personal political hang-ups.

 

I will qualify what I say then, exploiting the unintended consequences of legislation for the purposes of tax avoidance is immoral and anti-social.

 

Happy now?

[pb1977]

Ever wondered why you can't ask your employer to pay part of your salary to your wife so you can stay under one of the tax brackets?

 

But thats not what is happening in Philips Greens case. I take it his Wife will be employed, be on the board of directors be a shareholder or something within the Arcadia Group, hey she could be employed as a tea lady in the staff canteen for all i know and she has been payed a dividend.

 

Unlike my Girlfriend who isn't employed by the company i work for.

[Wildcat]

I think that really they are both the same! it is just that some now want to distance themselves from the seedier side of the Great Teflons time in office and call themselves Socialists and pretend that Nulabour has nothing to do with them,

No doubt about it, the Teflon is a smart cookie and leaves the current lad in charge for dead on all fronts!

 

Have you really missed all the objections from the left to Labour over the last 10 years? the million on the streets over the Iraq war? the strikes? the protests?

 

You seem to live in such an insular bubble you would be better off reading the thread rather than making foolish contributions.

[Uptowngirl]

These are things that affected every person in the UK not just you, but they are old news. His handing over to Gordon Brown was controversial but he is no worse a tax shirker than anyone else.

 

What has that got to do with anything. Hitler was at war with everyone in the country. It doesn't stop anyone disliking him.

 

Let me spell it out to you as you seem to be becoming obsessed.

 

Tony Blair is the worst kind of tax dodger. He was in charge of the system that laid down our tax system. He chose to leave many tax avoidance loop holes, and now exploits them all.

 

For a Labour Prime Minister to do that it marks him down as being a self centred, self interested hypocrite. Sending his kids to private schools and using private health schemes merely confirms it.

[Wildcat]

But thats not what is happening in Philips Greens case. I take it his Wife will be employed, be on the board of directors or something within the Arcadia Group, hey she could be employed as a tea lady in the staff canteen for all i know and she has been payed a dividend.

 

Unlike my Girlfriend who isn't employed by the company i work for.

 

Whether on the board or not, she hasn't earned the £1.2 billion dividend.