Rupert_Baehr Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 ...It is up to governments to impose a taxation scheme and it is duty bound for people to abide by it. So Phillip Green has not actually done anything wrong by planning his tax totally within the system. However a chap opperating a hand car wash for cash in hand has. I agree entirely. That is the system that we have despite 13 years of Labour Government. No doubt they would've liked to tax all those who didn't agree with their policies out of existence, but they didn't manage that. They may have managed to drive some of those people elsewhere, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptowngirl Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 So you'd support any measures brought in to tighten loopholes and crackdown on avoidance would you? I leave the rules to the politicians. If a Labour Government spend 13 years honing the system we have, who am I to argue? So why are folks who were perfectly happy to have a Labour Government in power for 13 years suddenly getting upset about law abiding citizens complying fully with every aspect of the tax system they devised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 It's more a question of what can be done about it rather than identifying who the culprits are. yup, in there lies the solution. From the list, I would pick kpmg - they acted beyond the law, and as an accounting/tax specialist/business managment company have the means to know they transgressed the law. I too am a tax shirker - i have an isa and contribute to a pension scheme to reduce my tax liability the rule for me is tax avoidance (ie reducing liabilities within the law) versus tax evasion (illegal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 There is envy and there is dislike of naked greed. So paying the required amount of tax is greedy now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Who would you vote for? Tony Blair. $43 million for advising the Kuwaiti government (yep that's right, $43 million). Yet his consultancy firm is set up to avoid paying UK tax. Of course, this payment will IN NO WAY affect his impartiality as a Middle East peace envoy. Oh no, no, no! Links below Tony Of Arabia Earns $43M As Advisor To Kuwait, While Getting Paid By Morgan Stanley And The UN The mystery of Tony Blair's finances [The Guardian] Tony Blair opposes new 50 pence tax rate for high earners Tony Blair ‘blocked non-doms tax’ He makes the Boy Cameron look like a pauper. Man of the People eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptowngirl Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I'm sensing some real dislike towards Tony Blair here, you've mentioned him twice I find it hypocritical that Blair earns more than £10 million a year and pays virtually no tax. He does nothing illegal. He just exploits every loop hole that his government left to be exploited. People like Green didn't devise the tax system, yet they seem to be criticised for obeying its rules. Blair on the other hand was responsible for those rules and uses them fully for his own advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decaff Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 So paying the required amount of tax is greedy now? I'm thinking its more of a morality issue. Should these wealthy people be allowed to avoid paying the same % of their income as us "normal" taxpayers. The majority of the public would say no, but until the rules are changed the practice will continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptowngirl Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Whilst not on the list, that is a good choice. Well perhaps you should add Tony Blair to your impartial list. He appears to be a firm favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I'm thinking its more of a morality issue. Should these wealthy people be allowed to avoid paying the same % of their income as us "normal" taxpayers. The majority of the public would say no, but until the rules are changed the practice will continue. The government obviously thinks they should our they'd change the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Innit Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 KPMG are the only ones who have actually done anything wrong - they broke the law. All the others have paid as much tax as they are required to and have done nothing wrong. Virtually all of us are legal tax avoiders and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. I'd even go so far as to say that it's a moral obligation, and we should all be avoiding as much tax as we can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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