newboy2011 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 awful story, i wonder how this guy got to this end? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/luton-park-siege-gunman-shoots-himself-dead-2192830.html http://article.wn.com/view/2011/01/25/Custody_battle_fathers_shotgun_suicide_ends_15hour_gun_stand/ many thoughts on this, one is if he was a real nutter he would have killed her? very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisdan Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 awful story, i wonder how this guy got to this end? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/luton-park-siege-gunman-shoots-himself-dead-2192830.html many thoughts on this, one is if he was a real nutter he would have killed her? very sad. Sorry, I missed the part in the article where it said he was denied access to his children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Sorry, I missed the part in the article where it said he was denied access to his children. So did I ; there doesn't appear to be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newboy2011 Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 added another link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 awful story, i wonder how this guy got to this end? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/luton-park-siege-gunman-shoots-himself-dead-2192830.html http://article.wn.com/view/2011/01/25/Custody_battle_fathers_shotgun_suicide_ends_15hour_gun_stand/ many thoughts on this, one is if he was a real nutter he would have killed her? very sad. How do you define 'real nutter'? It's a very unscientific term with no real meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 How do you define 'real nutter'? It's a very unscientific term with no real meaning. he was only a pretend nutter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 awful story, i wonder how this guy got to this end? . I'll tell you why, its because he lives in a country that allows and in some cases encourages women to use their children as a weapon against their ex partners. He is not the first or will he be the last when organisations like the CSA are allowed to be judge jury and executioner and who care nothing for the rights of the father or the children for that matter. The NACSA created a Book of the Dead that listed something in the region of 75 other suicides attributed to their actions. All of which the CSA denied and nothing was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisdan Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I'll tell you why, its because he lives in a country that allows and in some cases encourages women to use their children as a weapon against their ex partners. Unfortunately, you're probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newboy2011 Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 I'll tell you why, its because he lives in a country that allows and in some cases encourages women to use their children as a weapon against their ex partners. He is not the first or will he be the last when organisations like the CSA are allowed to be judge jury and executioner and who care nothing for the rights of the father or the children for that matter. The NACSA created a Book of the Dead that listed something in the region of 75 other suicides attributed to their actions. All of which the CSA denied and nothing was done. totally correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newboy2011 Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 How do you define 'real nutter'? It's a very unscientific term with no real meaning. troll has meaning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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