mannyp Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 its no suprise that the unions fund the labour party is that why when ever you see a protest on the streets there is always a union banner who is realy sturing the unrest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 What goes around and all that …….. we had Callaghan courting the Unions over a pint and a few Butties and now we have Cameron courting the “City” at a ball with £1000 tickets ………. What’s changed? The state of the country, for one. Union-led policies led us into bankruptcy, and the unions fought tooth and nail to keep us there until Thatcher clipped their wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyp Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 the thing is some members of unions pay thier union subs because if the dnt they get bullied in to being part of a union but realy dont vote labour and never had. this to me reminds me of the commujist party of the old ussr thier flag was also red was it not. in short the unions use the members money for poilitical gains or to back a party that possibly most members dont back but the leadership do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandad.Malky Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The state of the country, for one. Union-led policies led us into bankruptcy, and the unions fought tooth and nail to keep us there until Thatcher clipped their wings. Clipped their wings more like a sledge hammer on the head, or should that be a baton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Anyone old enough to remember the seventies, or earlier, would rather gnaw off their own arm than go back to the days when unions could dictate policy. You know that is untrue. Why did you say it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 exactly the same as when it is businesses giving money to the tory party of course. The difference is the Labour party is backed by organisations of working people... something that gives them legitimacy and credibility amongst working people. The Tories are backed by a small minority of priveleged people that just caused a financial crisis.... That is a very long way from exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 the thing is some members of unions pay thier union subs because if the dnt they get bullied in to being part of a union but realy dont vote labour and never had. this to me reminds me of the commujist party of the old ussr thier flag was also red was it not. in short the unions use the members money for poilitical gains or to back a party that possibly most members dont back but the leadership do That is ridiculous on quite a few levels. Political funds by Unions can be opted out of.... members may even have to opt in to them.. I can't remember off the top of my head. Such contributions are however optional and anonymous. There is no way anyone in a position to bully someone would know whether a particular union member was funding the Labour Party or not, unless they told people themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries22 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 This is a myth that the Labour party works for it's members, however they are funded. Lived through Tory and Labour Goverments, they all in it for themselves, they just want us to vote for their party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The state of the country, for one. Union-led policies led us into bankruptcy, and the unions fought tooth and nail to keep us there until Thatcher clipped their wings. I don't recall unions calling for the deregulation of the banks? Ohh you are talking about the IMF being called in after the disasterous economic situation left by Edward Heath?... caused by the Oil crisis wasn't it? Although I suppose your reference is to him picking a fight with the NUM he couldn't win. More fool him. He shouldn't have picked a fight with a set of workers that wanted a fair settlement in a fight he couldn't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigthumb Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 The difference is the Labour party is backed by organisations of working people... something that gives them legitimacy and credibility amongst working people. The Tories are backed by a small minority of priveleged people that just caused a financial crisis.... That is a very long way from exactly the same. They would never win an election in that case. Have you really thought that one through? By the way the financial crisis was caused because the labour government failed to regulate lending by financial institutions. The Government debt and budget deficit was caused by a government intent on creating unafordable public sector jobs without the means to pay for them. Probably because they were in hock to the unions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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