Tipex Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) the big society is all about free volunteers cameron ? practice what you preach then give your wages and your expense claim back and do the job for free no ? that's what we think money talks <REMOVED> walks Edited February 14, 2011 by esme masked swearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitch_1980 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Go crawl in a hole. What should happen first is all those people, who are on a higher wage than the prime minister should have their wages dropped in line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordChaverly Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Its the Cameronian equivalent of Blair's 'Third Way', i.e. a political gimmick to bamboozle people that something radically new is being offered. I suspect that it will go the same way as the 'Third Way', i.e. into oblivion very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Go crawl in a hole. What should happen first is all those people, who are on a higher wage than the prime minister should have their wages dropped in line Does that include bankers, CEOs, hedge fund managers etc? If so I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hots on Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 The big society is merely the opposite of the big government/state. Labour spent 13 years building up a massive unproductive welfare system/state and it is largely thanks to this we have almost become a nation of back-seat drivers; instead, we need to roll back the state, snap people out of a life of benefits, and encourage entrepreneurialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 The big society is merely the opposite of the big government/state. No, 'The Big Society' is rhetoric. Small state would be the opposite of big state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I've just been watching this on The Big Question. There was a woman (and I do feel for her) which kept going on about her severely disabled son who requires 24 hour support from a professional and expects the state to pay for it. How? You'd need someone else to earn enough to pay for them-self and another professional. What if this professional carer also had a child in this situation, e.g. they earn X but need to pay out X. How do these equations add up? People don't want the libraries to shut (neither do I), but if there being used proportionately less then they "deserve" proportionately less budget. The country as a whole has a budget, in simple terms, the taxes we pay, there is only so much money, it will only stretch so far, how can we expect it to pay for everything we want? The was a socialist who kept ranting (most of what he said were over grand clichés and he messed up virtually every time to make it sound worse!) about all their doing is cuts, cuts, cuts, we want this, this and that... Well pal, pay more taxes and you can have it, otherwise tell us where the money is going to to come from! Big Society is about us doing it instead of us paying more taxes. To be part of our community! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Society http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/news/building-big-society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I've just been watching this on The Big Question. There was a woman (and I do feel for her) which kept going on about her severely disabled son who requires 24 hour support from a professional and expects the state to pay for it. How? You'd need someone else to earn enough to pay for them-self and another professional. What if this professional carer also had a child in this situation, e.g. they earn X but need to pay out X. How do these equations add up? People don't want the libraries to shut (neither do I), but if there being used proportionately less then they "deserve" proportionately less budget. The country as a whole has a budget, in simple terms, the taxes we pay, there is only so much money, it will only stretch so far, how can we expect it to pay for everything we want? The was a socialist who kept ranting (most of what he said were over grand clichés and he messed up virtually every time to make it sound worse!) about all their doing is cuts, cuts, cuts, we want this, this and that... Well pal, pay more taxes and you can have it, otherwise tell us where the money is going to to come from! Big Society is about us doing it instead of us paying more taxes. To be part of our community! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Society http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/news/building-big-society In principle I agree but the idea that people can run a library or a post office seems to me to be a bit naive. If theres not enough money to run a library then "civilians" running it doesn't make that money magically appear. Same for a post office. If one is closing because there's not enough money to make it viable the community owning it doesn't suddenly generate the profits. I like the idea of the big society but I don't understand properly how it works. It seems to me to be encouraging people to set up co-ops and so on but its not clear how that is to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Big Society is about us doing it instead of us paying more taxes. To be part of our community! Big Society is about firing a librarian and then saying "if you want the library to stay open, then you run it voluntarily." How is that possible to the working population? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 The big society is merely the opposite of the big government/state. Labour spent 13 years building up a massive unproductive welfare system/state and it is largely thanks to this we have almost become a nation of back-seat drivers; instead, we need to roll back the state, snap people out of a life of benefits, and encourage entrepreneurialism. lolololololollolololololololololololololololololololololololololololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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