kittenta Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Can we please stop the name calling etc. There is no need for it, I'm sure you are all adult enough to put forward your opinions without resorting to childishness. Discuss the subject sensibly if you'd like the thread to remain open. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espadrille Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Although I dont normally read The Telegraph, I think this article gets to the core of what his Big Society is. Its just that its not branded correctly. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/janetdaley/100076148/big-society-common-sense-idea-hampered-by-a-silly-name/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Although I dont normally read The Telegraph, I think this article gets to the core of what his Big Society is. Its just that its not branded correctly. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/janetdaley/100076148/big-society-common-sense-idea-hampered-by-a-silly-name/ It has nothing to do with a silly name, it's the fact that people can see through it for what it really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Although I dont normally read The Telegraph, I think this article gets to the core of what his Big Society is. Its just that its not branded correctly. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/janetdaley/100076148/big-society-common-sense-idea-hampered-by-a-silly-name/ Branding is irrelevant. There are too many dots that aren't joined for it to make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espadrille Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 It has nothing to do with a silly name, it's the fact that people can see through it for what it really is. Funny. I think that most people in principle agree with the idea. Many just dont understand how it is going to work in practice, but most are willing to see how it works before they give it the thumbs down.i.e. take the balanced view. There are many hard working volunteers already in our communities and they all volunteer for many different reasons.Sometimes it is for their own benefit. Sometimes it is to give something back to society.This country would hard pressed right now if all our volunteers hung up their boots. We just need a lot more of them to join in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espadrille Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Branding is irrelevant. There are too many dots that aren't joined for it to make sense what dots do you need to be joined.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 what dots do you need to be joined.?Libraries are big at the moment so lets use that as an example. The village library is going to close. The council has to make savings/cuts and the library has to go because theres no money. The big society takes over and the library can now be run by civilians. The civilians decide they will run the library. Where does the money come from? Libraries are non profit making social institutions. If the monies not there for the council to run it where does it come from for civilians to run it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Libraries are big at the moment so lets use that as an example. The village library is going to close. The council has to make savings/cuts and the library has to go because theres no money. The big society takes over and the library can now be run by civilians. The civilians decide they will run the library. Where does the money come from? Libraries are non profit making social institutions. If the monies not there for the council to run it where does it come from for civilians to run it? Indeed. And many people who are protesting at the cuts to services such as libraries claim that they are part of the big society i.e. coming together to defend public services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I think what Cameron wants to envoke is more community spirit and get people to take some pride in their surroundings and help other people. I can not possibly see how anybody, even Labour supports, could spin this into being something bad. I said it earlier, but it isn't something bad. The problem is that in the hands of politicians the message becomes no more than empty rhetoric. Like Eric Pickles telling people to eat healthy; the message is all fine and well, but look who it is coming from. I'm sure Cameron is sincere, and I'm sure he'd love it to work, but on the back of cuts then it is a political issue. That is the nature of Cameron's problem, not people spinning it to make it sound bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 According to another post the Mayfield Valley Educational Centre is closing yet a lot of people think it is a valuable and needed educational resource. A chance for Dave's Big Society to swing into action perhaps? But where do you start? Anybody got any ideas? Still no takers with some advice? Where are the advocates of the Big Society when you need them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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