discodown Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 It is interesting but it still leaves the question. Where does the money come from to run a park, playground, library, post office if the money isn't there in the first place to keep it open? It just seems like all the dots aren't joined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansheff Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Big society get volunteers to run things then when it all goes belly up the government can turn round and say it's not our fault blame the volunteers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 It isn't political. All the parties know that this must be done. Do you realise what this means? It is a population graph. May I prod you to rush to the point? Of course you may. It is what is dictating all our futures. There are less young people than older people. In ten to twenty years time there will be less workers than those who have retired and there will be fewer taxpayers but their tax burden will be higher. There is no choice but to reduce the size of the state and our reliance on it. We have to take responsibility for each other. Big Society (or whatever you call it) is the future because there is simply no alternative - the graph proves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandad.Malky Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Big Society (or whatever you call it) is the future because there is simply no alternative - the graph proves it. There may be trouble ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaimani Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 people already volunteer and run community centers etc. this is nothing new or 'big society-ey' about it. the new thing, from how i understand it is taking away all the money that allows people to volunteer in the first place. if the rent, bills, supplies etc money is taken away you can get all the volunteers you want but that's not going to help. unless people volunteer time, and money too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Dog Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 The big society is merely the opposite of the big government/state. Labour spent 13 years building up a massive unproductive welfare system/state and it is largely thanks to this we have almost become a nation of back-seat drivers; instead, we need to roll back the state, snap people out of a life of benefits, and encourage entrepreneurialism. Just out of interest, could you let us know what unpaid work you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Dog Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I see it as blatant hypocrisy. How much volunteering are politicians going to do? They're the ones with their hands in the pot more than anyone else. When they buy their own floating duck houses I might have some time for the idea. Some do, most don't - bit like the rest of us. There was a very funny interview with Francis Maude, the Cabinet Minister with responsibility for the Big Society, on Radio 4 a few months ago. The interviewer asked him what volunteering he did. The fool couldn't answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Dog Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Nope, more to do with that it fit's in conveniently with the Cons idealogy of a small state. Precisely, the whole of the Government's ideological neo-con agenda is about pushing for a smaller state. Why can't they be honest about it, rather than wrapping it up in talk of big society and defecit reduction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Dog Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 But since there isn't enough money at the moment, it means either raise taxes, or push for a "Bigger Society"... As you posted over 5,000 post in just 4/5 months of being a member of SF, I take it you don't have much time for anything else> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 As you posted over 5,000 post in just 4/5 months of being a member of SF, I take it you don't have much time for anything else> Never been in the I'm Bored section then? Also helps with what I do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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