mossdog Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Although I applaud the sentiment of the "Big Society" programme, I can't help feeling like the orphan boy Oliver. His nose pressed up against the butchers window dreaming of all the delicious his "betters" are enjoying with no more thought for him than if he were a fly buzzing around the roast! Money doesn't magically redistribute or "trickle down". It pools in great lakes of minority privilege where it guarantees the self fulfilling prophecy of maintaining the “elites" who run the world. That's exactly the problem with so many people in this country today and especially some on this forum!.......noses pressed up against the window of life's opportunities!Why don't you aim to become one of the "betters" or "elites"as you longingly describe them? many have! Don"t be weakened by some of the leftie guff you read on here,that's only for lifes losers.You could then bypass the welfare system, magically redistribute some of your wealth,and prove to us all that some wealthy people, if not quite a few are not quite the stereotypes you would like us to believe they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenadaInnit Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Yes but in the case of funding from councils, they will be given a particular amount of money for ( say) a particular project. They will be given criteria and they will have to spend the money on what the Local authority says it should be spent on, before a certain date, usually by the end of that financial year. If they dont spend the agreed amount they have to give it back. No doubt this may change in the future. Yes, that's true in some cases. However organisations from all sectors 'bid' to win work to deliver products and services. The trick is to have a good bid writer to ensure that there is a profit to be made. In my experience some charities are weak at bid writing and often underestimate how much they they are worth and should be charging so are generally working 'hand to mouth' without reserve. Also, procurement rules have changed in that local authorities and other public sector bodies prefer to put out large tenders. This means that some charities cannot compete with larger perhaps private sector organisations. In this instance it's good to form a consortium with one org being lead partner. The lead partner puts in the bid and takes a management fee for managing the project. The costs are worked out as any other tender for work e.g. costs plus profit. Going back to the Big Society idea. There is no way that anything can be done for free. Libraries for example. The only thing that will be saved is the wages bill. Costs like rent, rates, heat light, insurance etc etc all the basics of running a business are still there. In addition, money has to be found for volunteer expenses. Mr Cameron, what are your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Going back to the Big Society idea. There is no way that anything can be done for free. That's true and nobody in Government has suggested that Big Society is for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossdog Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 That's true and nobody in Government has suggested that Big Society is for free.Problem is ,unless people see that free label attached to everything................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank ryan Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Why doesn't cameron take a pay cut and use some of that money to help this 'BIG SOCIETY' He's alright int he? driving around in his flash car and living in his big house while some hard working lads earn peanuts! or even better **** off back to his mansion and stop destroying everything we hold dear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 That's true and nobody in Government has suggested that Big Society is for free. Unfortunately the Government(?) have suggested that the long term unemployed should work for their dole money e.g. picking up litter. Since they they get the dole money without working for it at the moment, it seems that the govermnet wants something for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Unfortunately the Government(?) have suggested that the long term unemployed should work for their dole money e.g. picking up litter. Since they they get the dole money without working for it at the moment, it seems that the govermnet wants something for free.Like the people on the dole do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Like the people on the dole do? Like the people on the dole do what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Like the people on the dole do what?Expect something for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharrowman Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 He is returned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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