linus Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 A land of dopes and Tories? I've tried to understand your signature, and failed. Is that the point of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I've tried to understand your signature, and failed. Is that the point of it? erm.. no, the comment I made has nothing to do with my sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eater Sundae Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Well, I can't speak for everyone else, but in my case it involves Kate Ashfield and a pot of honey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulgarian Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Owning a house much, much bigger than you need Owning a car much, much bigger than you need Living in a "good" postcode Everyone knowing you have achieved the above 3 things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Winning the lottery, and at a pinch the World Cup. Hence the emphasis is on dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callippo Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 there is no British dream. They're a pragmatic lot and don't believe in dreams. the root of this is the founding fathers in the USA's decision to put into their constitution that everyone is entitled to 'the pursuit of happiness', which can seem rather silly to a lot of the world's other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinac Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Isn't the American Dream essentially about escaping poverty and hopelessness? America has attracted those from around the world who were in dire situations and refused to accept it. Irish, Italians, Mexicans ... who else? The British don't seem to have a dream because we don't have extreme poverty or persecution to escape from. We have the freedom to do what we want and choose to do very little. We're not in sufficient pain to make the effort to change things for the better on our own ... and we're not inspired by our leaders to raise our game, reconnect with hope and rebuild our sense of identity and connection with bigger ideals. I mean - "The Big Society"! Ha! Cameron's big idea! Where's his "I have a dream" speech to back it up? Bring me my bow of burning gold Bring me my arrows of desire Bring me my spears o'clouds unfold Bring me my chariot of fire I will not cease from mental fight Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand 'Til we have built Jerusalem In England's green and pleasant land ... on second thoughts I think I'll crack open a can on a Tuesday night and watch some crap TV on my flatscreen sitting on my latest aquisition from sofa world ... live the dream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulgarian Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 America has attracted those from around the world who were in dire situations and refused to accept it. Irish, Italians, Mexicans ... who else? Piers Morgan, David Beckham ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callippo Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 level of political freedom in Britain is exemplary and the nation-building just gradually developed, there was no key moment when a bunch of guys had to sit down and invent a nation. different countries have different 'dreams'. Not a few of them is to get the hell out of their country as soon as possible, and preferably go to the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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