Harleyman Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Thats what you get after decades of US blockades and sanctions. You mustn't lean to the left in Uncle Sam's backyard. It went the way that all the other communist run countries went after 1989 but unlike the rest it still hasn't realized that yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 get real. The Soviet Union dropped the equivalent-to-scale of about five Marshall Plans on Cuba in thirty years. None of them worked. They were all abject failures. The place still got poorer and poorer and poorer, because of its elitist communist system that similarly impoverished and bankrupted its erstwhile sponsor. Forget about the US embargo (oh and by the way, it's an embargo not a blockade, 'blockade' is a juvenile propagandist sound-bite). Nobody else wants to buy anything from Cuba either. They don't make hardly anything efficiently enough for anybody else to want it. That's what communism does. I'd gladly buy some baccy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callippo Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 the baccy's probably not all that good. Another Cuban myth. I bet the baccy in the neighbouring countries is just as good or better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordChaverly Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 the baccy's probably not all that good. Another Cuban myth. I bet the baccy in the neighbouring countries is just as good or better. I remember when I used to live in New York, a friend in the UK asked me to get him some good cigars. I visited a tobacconists there and the owner was something of an expert on cigars and cigar production, so much so that he insisted on giving me an impromptu lecture on the global cigar industry. He said that the general view that Cuba produced the best cigars was a myth and that the quality was now very poor. As an example, he mentioned that the famous cigars that Churchill smoked were now produced in another Central American country, because Cuba didn't have the ability to produce high qaulity products (this applies of course the whole of Cuban industry, not just cigar production). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emma royd Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 It went the way that all the other communist run countries went after 1989 but unlike the rest it still hasn't realized that yet China seems to be doing alright at the moment. They are still experiencing double figure growth and outstripping India in terms of both wages for its workers, and the ability to attract inward investment. Indeed Vietnam is starting to boom now they've got rid of folks bombing their industries into the dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncocker Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 China seems to be doing alright at the moment. They are still experiencing double figure growth and outstripping India in terms of both wages for its workers, and the ability to attract inward investment. [b]Indeed Vietnam is starting to boom now they've got rid of folks bombing their industries into the dust. [/ And communism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emma royd Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 [/[/b] And communism ???????????????????????????? When did they do that????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncocker Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Vietnam was never communist in the first place. The Vietnamese Workers Party of Ho Chi Minh was Stalinist nationalist since its foundation. Ho was a supporter of Stalin and Mao Zedong and he eliminated the genuine communist movement in Vietnam led by Ta Thu Thau. The ”Socialist” Republic of Vietnam is not socialist, it never was and it will never be. Not as long that corrupt capitalist ”communist” party rules there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emma royd Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Vietnam was never communist in the first place. The Vietnamese Workers Party of Ho Chi Minh was Stalinist nationalist since its foundation. Ho was a supporter of Stalin and Mao Zedong and he eliminated the genuine communist movement in Vietnam led by Ta Thu Thau. The ”Socialist” Republic of Vietnam is not socialist, it never was and it will never be. Not as long that corrupt capitalist ”communist” party rules there. I think that you will find that the rest of the world doesn't agree with you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Vietnam The politics of Vietnam takes place in a framework of a single-party socialist republic. The central role of the Communist Party of Vietnam is reaffirmed in the current constitution, adopted in April 1992. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 China seems to be doing alright at the moment. They are still experiencing double figure growth and outstripping India in terms of both wages for its workers, and the ability to attract inward investment. Indeed Vietnam is starting to boom now they've got rid of folks bombing their industries into the dust. China communist? They pay lip service to it, still remember Mao Tse Tung as a national hero and that's about all. It's well on the way to becoming a fully fledged capitalist society. The massive amounts of Chinese made products exported to the US market has gone a long way to make it somewaht prosperous. When the US first went into recession in 2008 with the accompanying drop off in demand for Chinese made producrs a few hundred factories closed or went on short time and thousands lost their jobs. I remember that there was some civil unrest in the country caused by that development. Communism therefore has nothing to do with China's economic progress but hey ! Quiz time:banana: Which communist country erected a wall to keep it's citizens from defecting to the west ? No prizes for the correct answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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