Hots on Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Getting one over on people? Civil partnerships? Removing discrimination in the armed forces? Seeking recognition of the hate directed against them, by making hate crimes against homosexuals an offence under the Criminal Justice Act? Which of these is about 'getting-one-over on people just for the sake of it' ? Civil partnerships should be good enough, but they aren't of course, militant gays want government to legislate to force the church into marrying same sex couples, even though you just know most people that are calling for this don't care for the church and are not religious in any way. Why cant gay people just be soldiers in the army? why do they have gay soldiers in the army? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulgarian Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Why try to force acceptance? if people didn't force things we would still have child labour, slavery and women not voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Civil partnerships should be good enough, but they aren't of course, militant gays want government to legislate to force the church into marrying same sex couples, even though you just know most people that are calling for this don't care for the church and are not religious in any way. Wrong, there's no "forcing" involved, and my gay couple friends are as Christian as anyone else, you have no evidence those calling for church-sanctioned civil partnerships aren't religious, you just made that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Wrong, there's no "forcing" involved, and my gay couple friends are as Christian as anyone else, you have no evidence those calling for church-sanctioned civil partnerships aren't religious, you just made that up.Are they as Christian as people who actually obey the Bible's teachings? Like, for example, Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 if people didn't force things we would still have child labour, slavery and women not voting. Mmmm, I'll think about that one...:huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Are they as Christian as people who actually obey the Bible's teachings? Like, for example, Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13. Do you recommend killing people who eat shellfish or work on Sundays, or is it just the anti-gay bits of the Bible that excite you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozy Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Civil partnerships should be good enough, but they aren't of course, militant gays want government to legislate to force the church into marrying same sex couples, even though you just know most people that are calling for this don't care for the church and are not religious in any way. Why cant gay people just be soldiers in the army? why do they have gay soldiers in the army? I would imagine that the majority of gay people who want a church wedding do so because they consider themselves to be Christian. Not that having to be a Christian seems to apply to many heterosexual couples who marry in church! As for your second comment, gay people have been very happy to be gay and in the army, airforce or navy. Unfortunately, when the army, airforce or navy have discovered their sexual orientation, they haven't been happy about it and have booted them out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozy Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Mmmm, I'll think about that one...:huh: Behave - or I'll have to slap you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Are they as Christian as people who actually obey the Bible's teachings? Like, for example, Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13. Yes they are absolutely as Christian as those people. All Christians pick and choose which verses to ignore, the vast majority ignore pretty much all of the rules in leviticus. Leviticus does indeed say that homosexuality is immoral. However it also says that cutting your hair and shaving is also immoral. It says you can't wear clothes made of more than one fabric. It proscribes the death penalty for adulterers. It says that blind and disabled people aren't allowed to go to church. It says blasphemers should be stoned to death. People ignore the vast majority of the rules in leviticus, what is so special about the two verses you have put forward that they should be treated differently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hots on Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Wrong, there's no "forcing" involved, Militant gays want the Church Of England to marry same sex couples, they lobby the government to make it happen; the C of E isnt happy and doesn't want to, but the militant gay rights campaigners are insisting...they are FORCING the issue. and my gay couple friends are as Christian as anyone else, you have no evidence those calling for church-sanctioned civil partnerships aren't religious, you just made that up. I said MOST aren't religious. When something passes through your eyes, an editing process takes place and often by the time it reaches your brain, its quite different to what it originally was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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