mj.scuba Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I think the OP was after some stats from somewhere like the ONS. But if we're going to provide links to places like the Refugee Council, the OP might also want to take a look at a whole host of items from Migration Watch. The impact of asylum on social housing The number of failed asylum seekers remaining in the UK NAO Report - returning failed asylum seekers - Key Data The 'myths' posted further up the page confuse asylum seekers with refugees which are not always the same thing. This should help clear it up: The distinction between asylum seekers and refugees Hope this helps mystery man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Migration Watch was set up by a eugenecist, their figures are highly dodgy and have been criticised many times, for instance they rely on the British Passenger Survey which counts all returning people ate British ports and airports, so when Migration Watch claim so many immigrants arrive in this country they are actually counting British people returning from holiday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010/06/more-misleading-claims-about-migration/ Migration Watch have a long history of dishonesty and misleading claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Migration Watch was set up by a eugenecist, their figures are highly dodgy and have been criticised many times, for instance they rely on the British Passenger Survey which counts all returning people ate British ports and airports, so when Migration Watch claim so many immigrants arrive in this country they are actually counting British people returning from holiday! Have they used British Passanger Survey for their asylum figures in the links? BPS would not give asylum figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 http://www.leftfootforward.org/2010/06/more-misleading-claims-about-migration/ Migration Watch have a long history of dishonesty and misleading claims. I'm sure you can easily disprove all of the information in those links then, rather than relying on leftist propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Migration Watch are plain wrong to suggest that the introduction of the Points-Based System for managing immigration has led to an increase in the number of economic migrants entering the UK. A number of papers – including the Daily Mail – report the publication of a Migration Watch briefing that purports to show that migration to the UK from outside the EU for work has increased by 20 per cent since the introduction of the Points-Based System in 2008. But this claim is false. In fact, the Home Office statistics that Migration Watch cite show that the total number of visas issued through the parts of the Points-Based System that deal with migration for work (Tiers 1 and 2) was 97,280 in 2009 (including dependents). This is 15 per cent fewer than the 114,850 visas issued (including dependents) in 2007 through the Work Permit and Highly Skilled Migrant routes that the PBS replaced. This downward trend is continuing – visas (including dependents) granted through Tiers 1 and 2 were down 15 per cent in the first quarter of 2010 compared to the first quarter of 2009. Migration Watch can claim an ‘increase’ in economic migration from outside the EU only by including in their figures not only new arrivals but also extensions of leave to remain for those who have already come to the UK through Tier 1 and 2 or predecessor schemes in previous years. It is misleading to describe this as immigration. It is also difficult to compare these numbers over time – changes in the immigration rules can mean that more or fewer people need to apply for extensions in any given year, regardless of the underlying levels of immigration (individuals can also make more than one application for extension in a year, so there is some double counting). Ibid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Migration Watch are plain wrong to suggest that the introduction of the Points-Based System for managing immigration has led to an increase in the number of economic migrants entering the UK. A number of papers – including the Daily Mail – report the publication of a Migration Watch briefing that purports to show that migration to the UK from outside the EU for work has increased by 20 per cent since the introduction of the Points-Based System in 2008. But this claim is false. In fact, the Home Office statistics that Migration Watch cite show that the total number of visas issued through the parts of the Points-Based System that deal with migration for work (Tiers 1 and 2) was 97,280 in 2009 (including dependents). This is 15 per cent fewer than the 114,850 visas issued (including dependents) in 2007 through the Work Permit and Highly Skilled Migrant routes that the PBS replaced. This downward trend is continuing – visas (including dependents) granted through Tiers 1 and 2 were down 15 per cent in the first quarter of 2010 compared to the first quarter of 2009. Migration Watch can claim an ‘increase’ in economic migration from outside the EU only by including in their figures not only new arrivals but also extensions of leave to remain for those who have already come to the UK through Tier 1 and 2 or predecessor schemes in previous years. It is misleading to describe this as immigration. It is also difficult to compare these numbers over time – changes in the immigration rules can mean that more or fewer people need to apply for extensions in any given year, regardless of the underlying levels of immigration (individuals can also make more than one application for extension in a year, so there is some double counting). Ibid. You're posting about immigration. Read the title and the OP, they asked for data/information about asylum seekers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 You're posting about immigration. Read the title and the OP. You claimed Migration Watch is a reliable source. It isn't, they make stuff up. Would you trust stats on racial issues from a eugenecist? Don't cite sources with a history of dishonesty, it adds nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 You claimed Migration Watch is a reliable source. Quote please? The OP asked for stats and data. Since that is not what is being posted in reply, but instead links to places like the Refuge Council are, the OP might want to take in a range of information from across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Quote please? The OP asked for stats and data. Since that is not what is being posted in reply, but instead links to places like the Refuge Council are, the OP might want to take in a range of information from across the board. I imagine the OP wants reliable data, not a load of made-up rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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