spindrift Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 You make me laugh really you do! !! accordimg to condell its there religon hahahahaha. No your wrong accordimg to the terrorists its there religon everythimg they do they say they are doing allahs work so how is that condell making the link between muslims and terrorism they do it by themselves Not true. The terrorists gave a number of reasons for the attacks, US troops based in Saudi and US support for Israel among them. Because the 9/11 hijackers were all Muslims, it was easy to presume that Islamic fundamentalism was the central motivating force driving the 19 hijackers to kill themselves in order to kill Americans. There’s just one problem: We now know that this narrative is not true. New research provides strong evidence that suicide terrorism such as that of 9/11 is particularly sensitive to foreign military occupation, and not Islamic fundamentalism or any ideology independent of this crucial circumstance. Although this pattern began to emerge in the 1980s and 1990s, a wealth of new data presents a powerful picture. http://morrisonworldnews.com/?p=29802 The first step is recognizing that occupations in the Muslim world don’t make Americans any safer — in fact, they are at the heart of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayfair Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Which book is it that tells them they are going to heaven? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayfair Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Not true. The terrorists gave a number of reasons for the attacks, US troops based in Saudi and US support for Israel among them. Because the 9/11 hijackers were all Muslims, it was easy to presume that Islamic fundamentalism was the central motivating force driving the 19 hijackers to kill themselves in order to kill Americans. There’s just one problem: We now know that this narrative is not true. New research provides strong evidence that suicide terrorism such as that of 9/11 is particularly sensitive to foreign military occupation, and not Islamic fundamentalism or any ideology independent of this crucial circumstance. Although this pattern began to emerge in the 1980s and 1990s, a wealth of new data presents a powerful picture. http://morrisonworldnews.com/?p=29802 The first step is recognizing that occupations in the Muslim world don’t make Americans any safer — in fact, they are at the heart of the problem. And by the way ive never slagged the islamic religon down and this thread is regarding pat condell and you have had your say so why dont you leave it there and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Not true. The terrorists gave a number of reasons for the attacks, US troops based in Saudi and US support for Israel among them. Because the 9/11 hijackers were all Muslims, it was easy to presume that Islamic fundamentalism was the central motivating force driving the 19 hijackers to kill themselves in order to kill Americans. There’s just one problem: We now know that this narrative is not true. New research provides strong evidence that suicide terrorism such as that of 9/11 is particularly sensitive to foreign military occupation, and not Islamic fundamentalism or any ideology independent of this crucial circumstance. Although this pattern began to emerge in the 1980s and 1990s, a wealth of new data presents a powerful picture. http://morrisonworldnews.com/?p=29802 The first step is recognizing that occupations in the Muslim world don’t make Americans any safer — in fact, they are at the heart of the problem. What you are describing sounds like the French resistance movement, but they blew up their own bridges. Why don't you (not you personally) do the same instead of killing innocent people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 And a tenth of a mile in yards? And only a two minute walk away. The building that Parc 51 will replace was previously a coat factory, but was damaged during the 9/11 attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 The building that Parc 51 will replace was previously a coat factory, but was damaged during the 9/11 attacks. It is not what it was but what it is going to be that is upsetting people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 It is not what it was but what it is going to be that is upsetting people. I know. I'm making the point that, just because it is outside the immediate footprint of the WTC, does not mean it was untouched by the events on that day, and in fact the very building it will replace, is only available as a building space because it was damaged on that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I know. I'm making the point that, just because it is outside the immediate footprint of the WTC, does not mean it was untouched by the events on that day, and in fact the very building it will replace, is only available as a building space because it was damaged on that day. Did it have to be damaged though. Should anything have been damaged? ( I would say the same to the Americans and the British as well by the way ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Condell is a hate freak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 The September 11th attackers had no qualms about attacking innocent people, including almost a hundred muslims who died. What does that tell you? Condell would have you believe the ideology of the terrorists is purely religious. This is simplistic and naive. Most al-Qaeda experts seem to agree that the stationing of American troops in Saudi Arabia was the main motivating grievance. For bin Laden, the main goal was to expel American troops from Saudi Arabia. 15 out of the 19 September 11th terrorists were Saudi. If you wanted to set people free from murdering repressive dictators that harbour terrorism you should have really started with Saudi Arabia. Instead Iraq and Saddam were targetted, ironic since bin Laden hated Saddam. Condell is using dishonest and recklessly stupid racist language which is way off the mark factually and designed to misdirect our ire. That's why it's irresponsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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