0742Sheff Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Long term sick ,but still can manage to get pregnant.She must have good days then. Learn about what you post about before opening that fat mouth of yours please. There are many things that class as an illness which differ from day to day. Depression and anxiety being two of the main contributors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadOnDole Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 It's lovely that you stick to the one newspaper. So you are saying that from 1997 - 2010 the following never happened New Labour used incapacity to fiddle the unemployment stats They introduced tutition fees, and began pricing people out of education Flooded the country with mass immigration Which forced up house prices (high demand) and lowered wages Wages were lower, so people in work were priced out of the housing market Which in turn pushed up the cost of renting And priced more people out of the renting market Anti Social and Low level crime soared under New Labour Which in turn pushed up insurance premiums for people living in poorer areas Drug use was encouraged under New Labour - with all the problems that go with having druggies everywhere The hard workers in society were punished by being taxed heavily The Feckless were rewarded with more money The cost of fuel more than doubled under New Labour - again hitting the lowest paid the hardest Education in our society became more devided - the richer you were the better life chances you had Bogus Colleges and Training Schemes were allowed to flourish under New Labour Instead of funding bogus Colleges, imagine if we had funded proper apprenticeships - no skills shortages Society is more violent - knife crime is up (again in the areas where the poorest live) Council Taxes and other indirect taxes more than doubled since 1997 - hitting the lowest paid in our society I could go on, but do you see where I'm coming from? New Labour has been the greatest enemy of the working class EVER !!!!! no other political party has ever come close. I do accept that the 1980s, things did go downhill when industrys shut. But you have to say, New Labour were in charge from 1997 - 2010, not once did they attempt to throw all that money into creating industry and in turn, well paid jobs for all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaimani Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 It's lovely that you stick to the one newspaper. So you are saying that from 1997 - 2010 the following never happened New Labour used incapacity to fiddle the unemployment stats They introduced tutition fees, and began pricing people out of education Flooded the country with mass immigration Which forced up house prices (high demand) and lowered wages Wages were lower, so people in work were priced out of the housing market Which in turn pushed up the cost of renting And priced more people out of the renting market Anti Social and Low level crime soared under New Labour Which in turn pushed up insurance premiums for people living in poorer areas Drug use was encouraged under New Labour - with all the problems that go with having druggies everywhere The hard workers in society were punished by being taxed heavily The Feckless were rewarded with more money The cost of fuel more than doubled under New Labour - again hitting the lowest paid the hardest Education in our society became more devided - the richer you were the better life chances you had Bogus Colleges and Training Schemes were allowed to flourish under New Labour Instead of funding bogus Colleges, imagine if we had funded proper apprenticeships - no skills shortages Society is more violent - knife crime is up (again in the areas where the poorest live) Council Taxes and other indirect taxes more than doubled since 1997 - hitting the lowest paid in our society I could go on, but do you see where I'm coming from? New Labour has been the greatest enemy of the working class EVER !!!!! no other political party has ever come close. I do accept that the 1980s, things did go downhill when industrys shut. But you have to say, New Labour were in charge from 1997 - 2010, not once did they attempt to throw all that money into creating industry and in turn, well paid jobs for all i disagree with a good few of some of the things on your list. but, your basic idea that if you work for minimum wage you're worse off, or, at best, just the same as on benefits can't be argued with. the system as it is proves you right. there's no point working, really, if you're going to get minimum wage, especially if you have kids etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 New Labour used incapacity to fiddle the unemployment stats They introduced tutition fees, and began pricing people out of education Flooded the country with mass immigration Which forced up house prices (high demand) and lowered wages Wages were lower, so people in work were priced out of the housing market Which in turn pushed up the cost of renting And priced more people out of the renting market Anti Social and Low level crime soared under New Labour Which in turn pushed up insurance premiums for people living in poorer areas Drug use was encouraged under New Labour - with all the problems that go with having druggies everywhere The hard workers in society were punished by being taxed heavily The Feckless were rewarded with more money The cost of fuel more than doubled under New Labour - again hitting the lowest paid the hardest Education in our society became more devided - the richer you were the better life chances you had Bogus Colleges and Training Schemes were allowed to flourish under New Labour Instead of funding bogus Colleges, imagine if we had funded proper apprenticeships - no skills shortages Society is more violent - knife crime is up (again in the areas where the poorest live) Council Taxes and other indirect taxes more than doubled since 1997 - hitting the lowest paid in our society As you say, Labour voters just can't (or won't) see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadOnDole Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 i disagree with a good few of some of the things on your list.. Out of interest, which bits do you disagree on? Not having a go, just curious as to what bullit points you think are wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Out of interest, which bits do you disagree on?I disagree with 5 and 10 and am not convinced by some of the others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 So you are saying that from 1997 - 2010 the following never happened New Labour used incapacity to fiddle the unemployment stats They introduced tutition fees, and began pricing people out of education Flooded the country with mass immigration Which forced up house prices (high demand) and lowered wages Wages were lower, so people in work were priced out of the housing market Which in turn pushed up the cost of renting And priced more people out of the renting market Anti Social and Low level crime soared under New Labour Which in turn pushed up insurance premiums for people living in poorer areas Drug use was encouraged under New Labour - with all the problems that go with having druggies everywhere The hard workers in society were punished by being taxed heavily The Feckless were rewarded with more money The cost of fuel more than doubled under New Labour - again hitting the lowest paid the hardest Education in our society became more devided - the richer you were the better life chances you had Bogus Colleges and Training Schemes were allowed to flourish under New Labour Instead of funding bogus Colleges, imagine if we had funded proper apprenticeships - no skills shortages Society is more violent - knife crime is up (again in the areas where the poorest live) Council Taxes and other indirect taxes more than doubled since 1997 - hitting the lowest paid in our society I could go on, but do you see where I'm coming from? New Labour has been the greatest enemy of the working class EVER !!!!! no other political party has ever come close. I do accept that the 1980s, things did go downhill when industrys shut. But you have to say, New Labour were in charge from 1997 - 2010, not once did they attempt to throw all that money into creating industry and in turn, well paid jobs for all while i agree with some of what you put how do you think the condems are going to do things different ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CockneyMafia Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 People on benefits seem to go out more and seem to enjoy life in general. They do? I am currently on state benefits after leaving work through illness. Housing benefit payment is £80 a month less than my rent. My total net benefit per week with JSA is £41, which doesn't even cover food and household essentials. Hardly the life of riley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I was earning £13,000 plus OT after leaving school in 1994. Plenty of school-leavers are earning less than that, and plenty more can't find jobs at all. It's ridiculous to suggest that Labour were not a huge negative on this country, undoubtedly the worst government in the history of Britain, and among the worst in the history of the world. They turned a pleasant country to live into a hell-hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CockneyMafia Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 They turned a pleasant country to live into a hell-hole. Can you provide some examples of where this has happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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