Hots on Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 When did they do this? Many people did the maths and decided they were better off on benefits than being in employment. If you're going to respond to this by saying that actually its the Tory business class not paying people enough that disincentive's working then don't bother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Tamudo Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 If you're going to respond to this by saying that its the Tory business class not paying people enough that disincentivize working then don't bother What ever gave you that impression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofstrad Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 The one thing I miss is socialising outside of work due to lack of money and I'm sure I am not the only one. I think you are, unless you work for less than the minimum wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadOnDole Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Sooner rather than later people will find going to work to br economically unviable. I reckon anyone that commutes more than say 25 miles (each way) will soon be pooping their pants - I've seen in the papers that petrol may soon be £1.42 a litre. Anyone who uses more than 2 gallons of fuel per day, is going to need a hefty pay rise to get to work. The only people immune are people who work within about 10 miles from their home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofstrad Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I reckon anyone that commutes more than say 25 miles (each way) will soon be pooping their pants Surely most healthy adults can hold onto their bowel contents for a journey of more than 25 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I agree. Its so vague its hardly worth debating. its so vague its not even worth getting out of bed for? errrrrrrrm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cressida Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 its so vague its not even worth getting out of bed for? errrrrrrrm or posting about (you and me both) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Many people did the maths and decided they were better off on benefits than being in employment. If you're going to respond to this by saying that actually its the Tory business class not paying people enough that disincentive's working then don't bother It was only because of the labour party the word 'disincentive' recently entered the common English language. Iain Duncan Smith himself said, we cannot blame people for making a rational decision not to work. And for that reason, the tories should lay off the unemployed unless they can introduce employment programs where every man can do 84hours (without slacking) if he so wishes at a fair rate, for the sake of argument - £5.93. Until then they should concentrate their efforts upon improving the lot of the working poor. They have the power to issue money and impose taxes. Let's hope while they are in power they do so in a better way than the previous bunch did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 We have yet to see what the new "universal credit" will do for people on benefits. The new LHA rules are going to cause big problems when they start in april. People are not going to be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 We have yet to see what the new "universal credit" will do for people on benefits. The new LHA rules are going to cause big problems when they start in april. People are not going to be happy LHA: if the dataset of local rents is; 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. Then maximum LHA is going to be 3. Rather than 5. HOUSING COSTS MUST FALL (Consider a nice 3 bedroom house can be built for under £30k) Buy to let, and housing speculation is what got us in the mess we are in today. Universal credit; Lose 65p of benefits per £1 earned for first hundred. (£2 an hour net gain) 70p for next £50, and 74p thereafter till your off benefits. (£~£1.50 net gain) It's not brilliant, but with falling property values maybe the average price of a pint in the pub can fall back below £2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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