Mr Prime Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Of course. There are no conspiracies. Suez (protocol of Sèvres), Watergate, the 1953 CIA sponsored Iran coup, the Iran-Contra affair, CONTELPRO, Operation Mockingbird, or, if you fancy a real blast from the past, the Gunpowder Plot of 1605. None of these in fact actually happened. I happen to know for a fact that Oliver Stone invented Watergate to promote his Nixon biopic. I had proof but it was stolen. A sound argument against this conspiracy nonsense is that such things could not be kept secret. This is correct. After all, no one in 1945 was surprised about the atom bomb, the general public had known about the Manhattan Project for years. Don't start all that, you know perfectly well what is being discussed here e.g. Bush blew up the twin towers, the government caused 7/7, the moon landings were faked and John Smith was murdered by the Bilderberg Group. Anyone who believes in any of those needs to see a psychiatrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaimani Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Are they all idiots? Do they have a point? Should they be ignored? Do they serve a useful purpose? Evidence the overlords send you?:suspect: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Bush blew up the twin towers, the government caused 7/7, the moon landings were faked and John Smith was murdered by the Bilderberg Group.. That's not what the OP asks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrapeApe Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Are they all idiots? Probably. Should they be ignored? Largely, except to point out how stupid they are. Do they serve a useful purpose? Arguably, yes. They remind normal folks how lucky they are. That's just what they want you to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fareast Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Yes, there are conspiracies and conspiracies ! But, do we have to be 100 % naive or 100 % cynical ? Surely, even the simple-minded can see that our leaders [ such as they are ] don 't tell the truth about everything ALL the time ! However, some seem to try to do a decent job ; and then of course we have the genuine ****-ups. Our society is so full of half-educated knuckle-grazers that I 'm surprised there aren 't more ****-ups. to be honest. Add onto that, that governments can 't, for obvious reasons, reveal everything they 've got planned [ " Hello, Adolf, just to let you know the date and place of the Normandy thingimijig. " ] and we have a rather complicated scenario. Some people can 't do ' complicated ' though----so everything for them is either all or nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I don't think conspiracy theorists are idiots. I think they're engaging in idiocy, but I don't think they're idiots. Much like religion, I think conspiracy theories stem from a desire for the world to be ordered. It's a scary thought that the world is a chaotic place where a tiny group of barely organised people managed to kill thousands by flying planes into buildings. Much more comforting to think that it was all orchestrated by some all powerful entity, ie. god/government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan22 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Of course. There are no conspiracies. Suez (protocol of Sèvres), Watergate, the 1953 CIA sponsored Iran coup, the Iran-Contra affair, CONTELPRO, Operation Mockingbird, or, if you fancy a real blast from the past, the Gunpowder Plot of 1605. None of these in fact actually happened. I happen to know for a fact that Oliver Stone invented Watergate to promote his Nixon biopic. I had proof but it was stolen. A sound argument against this conspiracy nonsense is that such things could not be kept secret. This is correct. After all, no one in 1945 was surprised about the atom bomb, the general public had known about the Manhattan Project for years. What's really hilarious is that the people who strut about accusing these so called "nutters" are largely the same ones who persist in defending an economic system which doesn't even have the courtesy to wear a mask while they plunder your life savings. Who privatises the profits but socialises the risks. The point is, "listen carefully I shall say this only once". Was it not for their commitment to justice, most of the Watergates, Iran contra, Backwater etc etc would have gone totally unknown and our esteemed critics would be calling the investigative journalists who uncovered them "nutters"......go figure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 While, in general, conspiracy theorists are barking and paranoid its always worth remembering that at the end of the boy who cried wolf the wolf actually was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan22 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 While, in general, conspiracy theorists are barking and paranoid its always worth remembering that at the end of the boy who cried wolf the wolf actually was there. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 While, in general, conspiracy theorists are barking and paranoid its always worth remembering that at the end of the boy who cried wolf the wolf actually was there. What's worth remembering is that that is a fictional fable whose purpose is teach children about lying, and has almost nothing to do with conspiracy theories. The boy isn't a conspiracy theorist, he's an attention seeking liar, that's rather the whole point. He doesn't really believe there is a wolf every time, he just makes it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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