Labour increase majority in Barnsley as Lib Dems lose deposit.

[sccsux]

He is in the middle remember.

 

And he's been giving us the middle finger since the GE.

[Grandad.Malky]

And he's been giving us the middle finger since the GE.

 

That made me

[andyofborg]

and of course one believes everything that the Tory Graph portrays. If the Tory graph says so it must be true.

Cant you see what the media are doing. All this attention they give Clegg takes all the pressure off Cameron.

 

it probably places more pressure on cameron, that's why they are doing it.

 

if, (when?) clegg falls the coalition will fall with him, an incoming leader would have to change the terms of the deal or he'll simply be walking into the inferno after clegg.

 

if the coalition falls, then while cameron might survive as leader for a bit, the tory right will set about him with the same passion as hounds chasing a fox, with pretty much the same end result.

[wednesday1]

and look at how many they have lost since 1983.

 

 

I would be more concerned about the amount of votes your own party has lost, not since 1983 but in the last 10 months!!! Of 6,394 who were conned into voting for the Lib Dems back then, only 1,012 still vote for them!

 

Lib Dem voting figs in Baaaarnsley:

 

Year Votes %

1983 7,011 19.2 (SDP)

1987 4,321 15.1

1992 4,321 11.1

1997 3,481 9.5

2001 4,051 14.7

2005 4,746 16.6

2010 6,394 17.3

2011 1,012 4.2 By-election

[Joe-b-1]

Ridiculous notion.Again, dont believe everything you read in the media.

 

It is ridiculous, he isn't a right wing Lib-dem he's a tory who happens to hold the reigns of the Lib - dems.

[callippo]

what's funny is that Clegg's stock has fallen so far, and not just in Barnsley, but nationwide, that they must be thinking twice about having him as one of the so-called 'persuaders' for AV now. Just the sight of him talking it up during the AV campaign, is going to put people off.

 

they're in trouble. If they haven't got him, then who else can they possibly rely on?

[Bassman62]

An excellent result!

 

Labour has increased its share of the vote and retained the seat.

UKIP has beaten the Tories into second place.

The Tories share of the vote has reduced.

The BNP share of the vote has reduced.

An Independent has beaten the Lib Dems.

The Lib Dems came 6th in the poll, despite gaining 2nd place in May last year at the General Election.

The Lib Dems also lost their deposit as they couldn't even gain 5% share of the vote.

 

This result doesn't bode well for the Lib Dems in the forthcoming council elections.

Hardly a full blooded turnout 37%

[redrobbo]

No he's not unfortunately. Despite what looked like a textbook left-ish LibDem electoral campaign Clegg is actually a right-wing LibDem Orange Booker with views that align very well with Cameron's.

 

It wasn't clear during the general election just how far to the right the LibDem leadership had moved. We all found out that politically they could easily be right of centre Tories - Clegg, Laws, Davey and perhaps even Cable and Huhne. The electorate have been duped and they don't like it.

Ridiculous notion.Again, dont believe everything you read in the media.

 

Oh dear espadrille. Despite you being a member of the Lib Dem Party, you appear not to know that your own party leader, Nick Clegg, is the co-author of the "controversial Orange Book".

 

Here's a link. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7187287.stm

 

I suggest you read it in order to avoid making yet another of your familiar gaffes.

[Vague_Boy]

Nick Clegg, is the co-author of the "controversial Orange Book".

 

Without wishing to get bogged down in semantics surely "the co-author" implies only two authors? There were more than two contributors to the "Orange Book".

 

Nick Clegg will alarm some readers by calling for powers over social and agricultural policy to be taken from European institutions and restored to national governments, but in reality his essay marks an advance in the party's thinking on Europe. Throughout those long years when people made unkind jokes about telephone boxes and bar stools, the argument that Liberal members deployed to show that their party was still relevant was that it had been the first to advocate British membership of the Common Market. And in many ways we are still refighting the 1975 referendum campaign. We are happier defending that membership than we are recognising that we have been "in Europe" for more than 30 years (and are going to remain there) and then moving on to examine our views about how the European project should be developing.

 

Clegg argues that EU powers have developed in a lopsided way. He asks why the EU possesses detailed legislation on the design of a buses, the use of seatbelts in cars and noise levels in the workplace yet "remains invisible as an entity in the UN, ineffective in promoting peace in the Middle East, toothless in tackling international crime and terrorism". Being in favour of Europe is no longer enough: we have to decide what sort of Europe we want. Clegg's formulation is compelling: "the EU must only act if there is a clear cross-border issue at stake, or when collective EU action brings obvious benefits to all member states that they would not be able to secure on their own".

 

LINK

 

My god, it's another Mein Kampf!

 

(You must remember that "controversial" in LibDem circles isn't quite what it is in the wider world.)

[I1L2T3]

Without wishing to get bogged down in semantics surely "the co-author" implies only two authors? There were more than two contributors to the "Orange Book".

 

 

 

LINK

 

My god, it's another Mein Kampf!

 

(You must remember that "controversial" in LibDem circles isn't quite what it is in the wider world.)

 

Point taken about the co-authorship. But anyway, so if I get you correctly you're saying that the bit he wrote is the nice bits and he has nothing to do with the bits in the rest of the book, despite the book being a blueprint for the direction the LibDem leadership has taken. You don't call yourself Vague Boy for nothing do you.