chem1st Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Why is the clip edited? http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/mar/04/labour-barnsley-central-byelection-lib-dems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Why is the clip edited? http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/mar/04/labour-barnsley-central-byelection-lib-dems Who's the tramp in jeans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Maybe they're abandoning politics because they know it will be a sure thing Labour will win. And that's very sad. I'd like to know what the people of Barnsley thought by having a 100% turnout. Just proves that you don't know what anyone thinks because no one ever had a 100% turnout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemist Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 What HAS been the highest turnout in a UK election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted March 4, 2011 Author Share Posted March 4, 2011 1983 Roy Mason 21,847 votes 1987 Eric Illsley 26,139 votes 1992 Eric Illsley 27,048 votes 1997 Eric Illsley 28,090 votes 2001 Eric Illsley 19,181 votes 2005 Eric Illsley 17,478 votes 2010 Eric Illsley 17,487 votes 2011 Dan Jarvis 14,724 votes A victory? Hmm. Hopefully Dan Jarvis will become part of a credible opposition but halving your vote and continuing the decline over 14 short years looks more like like a massive kick up the arse to me. A rather interesting take on things Tone! You omitted the Lib Dem share of the vote for those previous elections, don't worry, here they are: Year Votes % 1983 7,011 19.2 (SDP) 1987 4,321 15.1 1992 4,321 11.1 1997 3,481 9.5 2001 4,051 14.7 2005 4,746 16.6 2010 6,394 17.3 2011 1,012 4.2 By-election When viewed against this historical back-drop it becomes clearer still what an absolute disastrous result this has been for the Lib Dems. Although you have made much of the low turnout, turnouts as low as this for by-elections aren't uncommon, as table below shows: Table showing Parliamentary by-election turnout since 1997 Barnsley Central — Lab hold 36.5% Oldham East & Saddleworth — Lab hold 48% Glasgow North East — Lab hold 33.02% Norwich North — Con gain 45.88% Glenrothes — Lab hold 52.37% Glasgow East — SNP gain 42.25% Haltemprice & Howden — Con hold 34.03% Henley — Con hold 50.32% Crewe and Nantwich — Con gain 58.2% Ealing Southall — Lab hold 42.9% Sedgefield — Lab hold 41.5% Blaenau Gwent — Ind hold 51.7% Bromley and Chislehurst — Con hold 40.5% Dunfermline and West Fife — Lib Dem gain 48.7% Livingston — Lab hold 38.6% Cheadle — Lib Dem hold 55.2% Hartlepool — Lab hold 45.8% Birmingham Hodge Hill — Lab hold 37.9% Leicester South — Lib Dem gain 40.6% Brent East — Lib Dem gain 36.2% Ogmore — Lab hold 35.2% Ipswich — Lab hold 40.2% Falkirk West — Lab hold 36.2% West Bromich West — Lab hold 27.6% Glascow Anniesland — Lab hold 38.4% Preston — Lab hold 29.6% South Antrim — DUP gain 43% Tottenham — Lab hold 25.4% Romsey — Lib Dem gain 55.5% Ceredigion — PC hold 45.6% Kensington & Chelsea — Con hold 29.7% Wigan — Lab hold 25% Hamilton South — Lab hold 41.3% Eddisbury — Con hold 51.4% Leeds Central — Lab hold 19.6% Winchester — Lib Dem hold 68.7% Beckenham — Con hold 43.6% Paisley South — Lab hold 43.1% Uxbridge — Con hold 55.5% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted March 4, 2011 Author Share Posted March 4, 2011 What HAS been the highest turnout in a UK election? Dunno mate but here are the General Election turnout since 1945. Highest ever turnout was 83.9 in 1950. General election turnout since 1945, by region Year UK England Wales Scotland N.Ireland 2010 65.1 65.5 64.7 63.8 57.6 2005 61.4 61.3 62.6 60.8 62.9 2001 59.4 59.2 61.6 58.2 68 1997 71.4 71.4 73.5 71.3 67.1 1992 77.7 78 79.7 75.5 69.8 1987 75.3 75.4 78.9 75.1 67 1983 72.7 72.5 76.1 72.7 72.9 1979 76 75.9 79.4 76.8 67.7 1974 Oct 72.8 72.6 76.6 74.8 67.7 1974 Feb 78.8 79 80 79 69.9 1970 72 71.4 77.4 74.1 76.6 1966 75.8 75.9 79 76 66.1 1964 77.1 77 80.1 77.6 71.7 1959 78.7 78.9 82.6 78.1 65.9 1955 76.8 76.9 79.6 75.1 74.1 1951 82.6 82.7 84.4 81.2 79.9 1950 83.9 84.4 84.8 80.9 77.4 1945 72.8 73.4 75.7 69 67.4 Source: House of Commons Research Papers 01/54, 05/33 & 10/36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julado Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Apparently Nick Clegg couldn't be bothered to make the 15 mile trip to Barnsley to support their candidate. Now what does that tell us????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 What HAS been the highest turnout in a UK election? No idea - I believe around 90% but this kind of turnout is extremely rare -I do know that 100% has never been recorded. Turnouts in general are a disgrace to the voting population and, as you point out, leave no one with definite answers as to the true wishes of the people. Although many wouldn't agree, I would make it compulsory to vote although the voting slips would need to be amended to include a box which signified that the voter was not happy to vote for any of the listed candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Precisely so. I'm also surprised that Labour supporters think they can take heart from this by-election, in which the Labour candidate received less votes than they managed at the last General Election. Their vote may have fallen by a smaller ratio than anyone else's did ... but it has fallen. That means that less than nobody was sufficiently upset by the coalition's performance so far as to actually change their vote to a Labour one. Hahahaa...this really is quite a funny post, if you sincerely believe what you are saying, then you must be delusional..Labour WON with an INCREASED majority......end of..!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandad.Malky Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 I would make it compulsory to vote although the voting slips would need to be amended to include a box which signified that the voter was not happy to vote for any of the listed candidates. One year I spoiled my paper by putting a line straight through it …….. well what can one do in the absence of a “ none of the above “ box to tick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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