Eater Sundae Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Well.... Which law should it be? I was hoping for "Love thy neighbour", but I'm not sure her husband would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1954 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 That is Jewish law as you should know by now and even the Jews don't follow it. This has become your favourite excuse lately for anything nasty in the old testament. Are you saying the god of the Jews is not the same entity as your god? Are you now discarding the whole of the old testament because it doesn't apply to Christians? When the bible says god spoke to Moses, was that the Jew's god or your god? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eater Sundae Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 The law we have now, but applied equally to all. And no further changes to it without proper debate. Although I agree, this is much easier said than done. What is proper debate? There is a risk that society could pass laws which discriminate against particular faiths. I must stress that I don't think it has happened, just that it might. So we must make sure that the proper debate protects against this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carosio Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 I do not think it (opinion) overrides the law as this would mean it was above it, but it has the potential to change it or challenge it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karis Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 The thread's now onto page 3, but nobody's bettered this answer. Because that's so right. Of course, the laws should all apply directly to the world in which we live (ie. no pointless 16th century laws) and only common sense and reason should be applied to laws. Religion, for all its good intentions, should stay far far away from the court room. Isn't it interesting, though, that the law, which relies on *fact*, is so frequently mixed with religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 This has become your favourite excuse lately for anything nasty in the old testament. Are you saying the god of the Jews is not the same entity as your god? Are you now discarding the whole of the old testament because it doesn't apply to Christians? When the bible says god spoke to Moses, was that the Jew's god or your god? Moses was at one with the Almighty but his brother Aaron built an idol to Baal in the form of a golden calf that was god to many people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Because that's so right. Of course, the laws should all apply directly to the world in which we live (ie. no pointless 16th century laws) and only common sense and reason should be applied to laws. Religion, for all its good intentions, should stay far far away from the court room. Isn't it interesting, though, that the law, which relies on *fact*, is so frequently mixed with religion? Is it not 'fact' that we shouldn't lie, steal and murder etc. Surely that is 'good' law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newboy2011 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Although I agree, this is much easier said than done. What is proper debate? There is a risk that society could pass laws which discriminate against particular faiths. I must stress that I don't think it has happened, just that it might. So we must make sure that the proper debate protects against this. We vote for an MP. They debate the proposed new law. The lords is the check and balance. The courts set presidents ( if I spelt that right) the appeal courts are the check and balance. It's for the most part worked for hundreds of years. Now we have the EU checking that. However over the last 10 years or so cabinets have pushed in some laws that restrict our freedoms way beyond what was needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 I was listening to this couple on the radio the other day. The link regards Christian foster parents who lost the right to be foster parents due to their views on homosexuality. Whilst I don't want to go into the case it did raise a valid issue. Should people of faith be allowed a certain flexibility of the law to allow for their beliefs? Should a man be allowed 7 wives if his faith in his god and his teachings required him to do that? No, othewise we will have christians, muslims jews and any other loony outfit wanting their own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newboy2011 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 No, othewise we will have christians, muslims jews and any other loony outfit wanting their own way. The law has worked fine for along time. During that time we have had the above religions here. Militant Islam is not new. However political correctness is out of control. At times it's outright racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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