danny11 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Back on topic. How are you going to ensure full employment? Scrape minimum wage and all benefits, start factories manufacturing £1 an hour, when there is no food on table they will know they have to work for a living instead of living on state benefit or you are too good to do crap job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan22 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Please quote any of my posts that support the extreme right. Of course you can't as there aren't any so stop trying to make out I'm a racist to support your argument. It's hardly a surprise you do it; it's a common extremist tactic to smear anyone who disagrees with you. Crap debating tool used by those who can't support their own argument. You’re the one accusing the "lefty’s" of being cretins. Can your memory go back that far? As for debating when you say something which requires a counter I will give you one. So far all you have done is use trite nonsense to obscure the lack of content in your expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upinwath Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 As I have already said, as an advocate of the free market I think terms like “full employment" is within your remit. So I am quite willing and interested to hear your suggestions. Unless you don’t have any of course? Value in a Socialist state does not rely on being "employed". The whole notion of Socialism is that the jobs which need to be done to provide for the populace are done. And the excess created employed to facilitate development of science and academic advancement. But, if you are a farm labourer and you show interest in becoming an engineer you are educated to do so. If you are a nurturer and that is how you "value" then this is your role. A society based on equality of opportunity. Not on minority privilege and cronyism. And one which led the U.S for much of the space race and in many technological areas. Value???? Under a purist system, all are paid the same so no one gives a rats. What's the point of all that stress in a high powered job with loads of responsibility if you can earn the same as a taxi driver? All these lefty ideals assume human nature is other than as it is so they all need to kill 'enemies' and all fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 As I have already said, as an advocate of the free market I think terms like “full employment" is within your remit. So I am quite willing and interested to hear your suggestions. Unless you don’t have any of course? Value in a Socialist state does not rely on being "employed". The whole notion of Socialism is that the jobs which need to be done to provide for the populace are done. And the excess created employed to facilitate development of science and academic advancement. But, if you are a farm labourer and you show interest in becoming an engineer you are educated to do so. If you are a nurturer and that is how you "value" then this is your role. A society based on equality of opportunity. Not on minority privilege and cronyism. And one which led the U.S for much of the space race and in many technological areas. I didn't referred to money, just employment. That's what this thread is about. How are you going to ensure full employment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan22 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Please quote any of my posts that support the extreme right. Of course you can't as there aren't any so stop trying to make out I'm a racist to support your argument. It's hardly a surprise you do it; it's a common extremist tactic to smear anyone who disagrees with you. Crap debating tool used by those who can't support their own argument. The point being made is that since you asked for any “lefty government” which hadn't employed mass murder as a tool, I asked you to defend the far rights record on genocide to illustrate the farcical nature of your observation. Just thought I would clear that up for you, since you clearly didn't make the connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upinwath Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 You’re the one accusing the "lefty’s" of being cretins. Can your memory go back that far? As for debating when you say something which requires a counter I will give you one. So far all you have done is use trite nonsense to obscure the lack of content in your expression. The extreme left are cretins. I maintain my challenge. You used the extreme right in such a way as to suggest I supported them. Please quote any post I've made supporting that bunch of idiots. Any thread on any forum will do. I'll make you a deal. If you can find anything on any forum (By me), supporting the BNP, EDL or any other extremist group, I'll log off Sheffield forum and ask for my account to be deleted. If you can't, you do the same. Do you accept or are you scared to back up your lies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan22 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I didn't referred to money, just employment. That's what this thread is about. How are you going to ensure full employment? You can go back and forth all day avoiding the question Mr free hand. But the question remains. How are you as (an advocate) of the free market going to achieve full employment? It is the title of the thread after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan22 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 The extreme left are cretins. I maintain my challenge. You used the extreme right in such a way as to suggest I supported them. Please quote any post I've made supporting that bunch of idiots. Any thread on any forum will do. I'll make you a deal. If you can find anything on any forum (By me), supporting the BNP, EDL or any other extremist group, I'll log off Sheffield forum and ask for my account to be deleted. If you can't, you do the same. Do you accept or are you scared to back up your lies? No you inferred that connection. It was used as an ideological contrast to you question. It's not anyone else’s fault that you lack the ability to read and comprehend what someone is saying. You are accusing me with your lack of analysis, which seems frankly ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 You can go back and forth all day avoiding the question Mr free hand. But the question remains. How are you as (an advocate) of the free market going to achieve full employment? It is the title of the thread after all. That's our Tone for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan22 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Value???? Under a purist system, all are paid the same so no one gives a rats. What's the point of all that stress in a high powered job with loads of responsibility if you can earn the same as a taxi driver? All these lefty ideals assume human nature is other than as it is so they all need to kill 'enemies' and all fail. Because your welfare is the primary concern of the people in charge. Not how much money you can make them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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