Kevski35 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 And where did the money from the sales go? They where never sold, most where closed down or left to the respective countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 If the west is intent of ridding the world of dictators and tyrants how come Robert Mugarbe is still in power.He's done untold damage to his own people murdering millions and plundering all the money for his own use,but the west seems to turn a blind eye to it all. But if you think about it, Zimbabwean inflation, is lower than inflation in the UK. Perhaps we should learn from Mugabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 wasnt he an ex uk conservative leader?? As prime minister of Rhodesia he declared independence from Britain when the British government ordered his government to turn over control of Rhodesia (Now Zimbabwe) to the African natiionalists. When the nationalists took over they started to confiscate all white owned farms and in five years managed to bollix up the agricultural industry as well as the rest of the country. The Chinese probably have some interest in the country as well as others in Africa these days but the Chinese dont concern themselves with such notions as regime change or bringing "enlightened democracy" to those countries. They buy what they want and leave the social issues well alone Probably the smartest thing to do in the long run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamaica Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Because it doesnt have any of that black stuff . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 If the west is intent of ridding the world of dictators and tyrants how come Robert Mugarbe is still in power.He's done untold damage to his own people murdering millions and plundering all the money for his own use,but the west seems to turn a blind eye to it all.Because barrels of dry dirt aren't worth the trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 It is nothing to do with oil! It is because the surroundng states who are members of the ANC or whatever won't sanction it. What's that mean to Britain and America? Even the UN couldn't stop them removing saddam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 If the west is intent of ridding the world of dictators and tyrants how come Robert Mugarbe is still in power. Or Kim Jong II, Than Shwe, Islam Karimov, Hu Jintao, King Abdullah (Saudi Arabia) etc. etc. I think you know the answer. The 18th century was the Age of Reason, the modern era is the age of the ostensible reason. Oil Found in Zimbabwe - UK and US to Invade Next Week (satire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaimani Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 inclined to agree with the oil assessment. if we did have oil there'd be someone else in power a long time ago. but we don't so no one bothers. on the other hand it's down to his own mastery in the old divide and rule. he's done that beautifully. every 'opposition' party that tries to take form implodes before they go very far because of residual tribal mistrusts and infiltration. truth is he never even really needed to rig elections till, maybe now, coz he'd have won them hands down anyway. not because he's popular, but because though the majority are against him they'd rather him than any other untested potential 'puppet' or dictator in the state house. he's also managed to form a sizable 'power class' with so much to loose that they would, and do, fight harder than he would to keep the power. our history doesn't help. outsider can, and should, help. but, mostly, it's our fault-the Zimbabweans- both home, and us across seas. it's really only us who can and should do the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaimani Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Not worth it. The country is a disaster and an economic basket case. Any country that gets involved will never get out of the place It was far better off under Ian Smith really? for whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaimani Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 As prime minister of Rhodesia he declared independence from Britain when the British government ordered his government to turn over control of Rhodesia (Now Zimbabwe) to the African natiionalists. When the nationalists took over they started to confiscate all white owned farms and in five years managed to bollix up the agricultural industry as well as the rest of the country. The Chinese probably have some interest in the country as well as others in Africa these days but the Chinese dont concern themselves with such notions as regime change or bringing "enlightened democracy" to those countries. They buy what they want and leave the social issues well alone Probably the smartest thing to do in the long run redistribution was always part of the deal at independence. the agreement (Lancaster house agreement) was that nothing would change-with the land- for ten years. and nothing did. the way he did it was wrong, and the reasons he did it, in the end, where the wrong ones which is why things got so messed up. but the land had to be redistributed. and, regardless of the messy way it was done, it's better that it was done than left as it was. as for the Chinese, they're a worse threat than the British centuries back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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