Phanerothyme Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Or to put it another way, Shipman escaped justice by taking the cowards way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Good point, Banker. There are certainly some evil people in jail now who don't deserve to live, but bringing back the death penalty would also mean that innocent people could hang, as happened in the past. Another point is that when a murder conviction meant execution, juries were naturally reluctant to convict while ever there was any shadow of a doubt - and so guilty murderers got off scot-free. david bentley hanged and then was postumously pardoned.proof that the system failed him. I'm not so sure, Beechnut:- teeny-weeny has just provided incontrovertible evidence that juries were not at all reluctant to convict, even with the death penalty, whether the accused were innocent or no... There were plenty of people who went to the gallows. In Pierrrepoints's career, alone, between 1932 to 1956, he was executioner to between 400 and 600 convictees, amongst them, the innocents Timothy Evans and Derek Bentley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upinwath Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Peter Sutcliffe, Ian huntley, Brady and the late Hindly but to mention a few all deserved to be hanged in my opinion. These killers were guilty as sin. That would have saved a few quid as well. Yep - hang 'em high for such crimes but extend it to anyone with more than a user quantity of drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillsbro Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I'm not so sure, Beechnut ... teeny-weeny has just provided incontrovertible evidence that juries were not at all reluctant to convict, even with the death penalty, whether the accused were innocent or no....Clearly, juries convicted people. Beechnut's observation related only to those who were acquitted even though they were guilty. This certainly happened, whether due to smooth-talking defence counsel or whatever. If doubt could be put in the minds of juries, guilty people could be acquitted - as they clearly were. Guilty people are also acquitted nowadays, just as innocent people are convicted - as no system is perfect. The difference is that innocent people are no longer hanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 That would have saved a few quid as well. Yep - hang 'em high for such crimes but extend it to anyone with more than a user quantity of drugs. You going soft on us there UIW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snap jiper Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Its a national disgrace that Ian Huntley has not been executed for the crime he commited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Its a national disgrace that Ian Huntley has not been executed for the crime he commited Because killing people is wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snap jiper Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Because killing people is wrong? I take it you don't know what Huntley did ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTrigger Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 should we bring back the death penalty It is something I discuss with my partner all the time, she works with abused children and I have worked in different departments of Yorkshire hospitals for quite a while now. I think the death penalty would act as such a strong deterant that it would prove succesfull in reducing crime numbers. However who has the right to choose when another person should be killed? I often joke that capital punishment should return and although I think incredibly unlikely I think the thought of being whipped etc if you chose to beat your partner or child would serve as an adequate deterant. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snap jiper Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I personally don't care if Capital Punishment is a deterant or not.. What i can never get my head round is how quickly the Victims of certain monsters are forgotten.. The system fails to give certain victims JUSTICE because there are monsters who are 100 per cent guilty locked up and will never be executed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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