0742Sheff Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Who is going to provide the training (If someone is going to be cleaning graffiti off walls there will be quite a bit of it)and equip all these people with tools and safety equipment? You? It is going to be quite some outlay for the sake of 10 hours a week. I don't like quoting myself but you seem to have missed my post dave_dave and you are the one with all the answers it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan22 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 So you didn't understand the OP then? Would you like me to explain it to you? Yes if you wouldn't mind I would appreciate you explaining to me why the victims of state sanctioned theft are responsible for that theft, not only once that they (we) socialise the risk of their negligence. That also the unemployed who have been made so by that theft should do work in order to be entitled to enough money to live on? I can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_dave Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I don't like quoting myself but you seem to have missed my post dave_dave and you are the one with all the answers it seems. You seem to have missed the fact that I said it isn't a realistic situation, simply my answer to the question in the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savstar Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 We have obviously stressed our opinions to you, however you seem to clearly ignore them and the fact that you are disregarding the truth why people should not be forced to work for JSA. However you have your opinions and we have ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_dave Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Yes if you wouldn't mind I would appreciate you explaining to me why the victims of state sanctioned theft are responsible for that theft, not only once that they (we) socialise the risk of their negligence. That also the unemployed who have been made so by that theft should do work in order to be entitled to enough money to live on? I can't wait! I already explained it, see the post below the one you quoted. (the OP that is, not your take on the problems with banks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savstar Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 "10 hours per week, for the £65 JSA is above minimum wage. Do you have a calculator? You could check it out." Yes I have, but you fail to realize that bills, meal allowances, travel fares etc also need to be taken out of this, effectively you would more than likely be working for less than minimum wage if you take that into consideration, and read my post earlier regarding this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan22 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I already explained it, see the post below the one you quoted. (the OP that is, not your take on the problems with banks). People are unemployed as a direct consequence of the Banks. Are you still struggling to see the relevance of this in relation to what you suggest morally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_dave Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 People are unemployed as a direct consequence of the Banks. Are you still struggling to see the relevance of this in relation to what you suggest morally? So the long-term unemployed, that aren't seeking work, are in that situation because of the banks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0742Sheff Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 You seem to have missed the fact that I said it isn't a realistic situation, simply my answer to the question in the OP. So you've banged the same old crap out for 10 pages knowing full well that it isn't even realistically possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_dave Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 "10 hours per week, for the £65 JSA is above minimum wage. Do you have a calculator? You could check it out." Yes I have, but you fail to realize that bills, meal allowances, travel fares etc also need to be taken out of this, effectively you would more than likely be working for less than minimum wage if you take that into consideration, and read my post earlier regarding this. Why would working a few hours a week raise your bills and meal allowances? Possibly travel could be subsidised? How about if it didn't cost extra? If you simply worked a few hours a week in order to receive your JSA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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