DeathAxe Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 I don't buy into the Steve Jobs reality distortion field to begin with, so I don't think about the workers at foxconn :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Loads of articles about this on the tech news websites: Foxconn faces leaked report of worker abuse, violence Apple, Dell, HP supplier a 'prison' http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/10/foxconn_abuse_report/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/12/foxconn_responds_to_abuse_allegations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minki Posted April 4, 2011 Author Share Posted April 4, 2011 What is your source for this? New Internationalist NI 441 April 2011. P. 19. http://www.newint.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minki Posted April 4, 2011 Author Share Posted April 4, 2011 Chem1st is right in questioning the meaning behind these figures. 300,000 to 400,000 people work there. The suicide rate in the UK in 2009 was 5.2 per 100,000. This means you might expect to have as many as 21 suicides each year for the same number of UK people. Take into consideration the fact that many of these young people are far from home and without support networks and the picture starts to looks a bit different from that painted by the OP. Pays to look a little closer, Minki. Especially if you're planning to try to make people feel guilty about stuff like this. I suggest that YOU look closer Shortcrust. Using comparative data does not make the matter any less important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minki Posted April 4, 2011 Author Share Posted April 4, 2011 http://www.china.org.cn/business/2010-06/09/content_20219350.htm That's the story from last year when they more than doubled basic wages to around £200/month. That's not a bad wage for an unskilled assembly worker on a production line in China, comparatively. You're a year out of date with this story, conditions have improved & the suicide rate has fallen below it's already low level. Obviously pay & conditions aren't up to western standards, but it's China, they're still a developing country. The conditions aren't any worse at Foxconn than at many other Chinese companies. If you boycott them (turn amish or something, they make a lot of electronics) then it'll slow their development as a country & the workers will be stuck on poor pay in bad conditions for longer. Apologies for the correction but this is very much a current issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minki Posted April 4, 2011 Author Share Posted April 4, 2011 China also has a higher suicide rate than the UK, so Foxconn employees are less likely to commit suicide than the general population. Foxconn have also tried to take steps to lower the rate. You are absolutely right about Foxxconn trying to lower the rate and as a reactive measure have installed three million square metres of anti-suicide safety nets. Although this didn't stop a 25 year old university graduate employee jumping to her death at Shenzhen on January 7th this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcrust Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 I suggest that YOU look closer Shortcrust. Using comparative data does not make the matter any less important. No, but it does make your first post look a little bit silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutronic Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Thats like saying the next time you shop at gap think of all the child labour, or when you put on that fave tee from Primark just remember a 4 yr old put that together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anywebsite Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 I suggest that YOU look closer Shortcrust. Using comparative data does not make the matter any less important. They employ over 300,000 people, had fewer suicides than a typical English city of a similar size & are based in a country with about double our suicide rate. So of course it makes it less important. Obviously not for the people involved & their families, but as a statistic, they have a low rate of suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anywebsite Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 You are absolutely right about Foxxconn trying to lower the rate and as a reactive measure have installed three million square metres of anti-suicide safety nets. Although this didn't stop a 25 year old university graduate employee jumping to her death at Shenzhen on January 7th this year. What about Nottingham? Fewer people live in Nottingham than work for Foxconn, yet it has more suicides. Is Nottingham a concentration camp too? Should we boycott everything made in Nottingham? This pair committed suicide only a few weeks ago - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368459/Coroner-asks-police-investigate-deaths-teenage-friends-hanged.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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