banjodeano Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 same here, the political priority is to panic the libdems and destabilize the government, political refoRm is all well and good , but protecting the NHS and having a country that educates its young is FAR more important. VOTE NO - VOTE AGAINST CLEGG If we wait four years to put the boot in, what will have happened to the NHS?...we have to act now..let's tell cleggy boy what we think now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted April 10, 2011 Author Share Posted April 10, 2011 same here, the political priority is to panic the libdems and destabilize the government, political refoRm is all well and good , but protecting the NHS and having a country that educates its young is FAR more important. VOTE NO - VOTE AGAINST CLEGG Steady on there or you'll let the cat out of the bag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 same here, the political priority is to panic the libdems and destabilize the government, political refoRm is all well and good , but protecting the NHS and having a country that educates its young is FAR more important. VOTE NO - VOTE AGAINST CLEGG that's all well and good, but will the following government be any more protective of the nhs or educate the young better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esme Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 What is AV a solution to? I don't think it's a solution to anything, merely a sop to true electoral reform. A clumsly sleight of hand passing off a half-assed voting system as a genuine improvement in representational democracy.it's a solution to the failings of the fptp system, I'll admit it's not a very good solution but it's the only option we are being offered we aren't being offered true electoral reform and as far as I'm concerned we'll never be offered true electoral reform if we turn down what the powers that be deign to offer us like I said it's a poisoned chalice either way if we say yes, we are stuck with AV for a long time if we say no, electoral reform dies as MP's will say "the people don't want it, we had this referendum and they said no" waiting for MP's to give us true democracy is going to be a very long wait indeed so unless there's a revolution this is the only change we are going to be able to make to the system, so I say take it now you think it's a bad decision and I can respect that but I'm still convinced it's better than doing nothing which is what saying no achieves and voting no in order to punish the lib dems is still not sensible, you want to punish the lib dems, wait until the next election and do it then, voting no to AV just to spite nick clegg will do absolutely no damage to the coalition whatsoever, you'll still be stuck with them for the next couple of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 now you think it's a bad decision and I can respect that but I'm still convinced it's better than doing nothing which is what saying no achieves No, it's not better than doing nothing which is why of the 3 countries that do have AV one is not going to continue, another is looking at ways of changing the system and the last is Papua New Guinea. Says it all really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esme Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 No, it's not better than doing nothing which is why of the 3 countries that do have AV one is not going to continue, another is looking at ways of changing the system and the last is Papua New Guinea. Says it all really.ok, so what is your alternative, leaving things as they are and having decades more government that pays no attention to protests of the people or something else ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank ryan Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 There is enough panic already don’t you think. no such thing as enough - we need to hit the decent, sandal wearing liberals in the conscience and the careerists with the threat of going back to being lecturers. vote anti clegg - vote no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank ryan Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 that's all well and good, but will the following government be any more protective of the nhs or educate the young better? if you don't think so, vote tory or libdem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Well the "NO" party political broadcast this evening was very disappointing. Using Alan B'Stard and deliberately trying to confuse a class of students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie_w Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 vote anti clegg - vote no Or how about VOTE YES and then vote 1,2,3,4,5,6 whatever but don't allocate a number to the Lib Dems at a general election? Wouldn't that be much more effective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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