Phanerothyme Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 A Royal Navy crewman has been shot dead and another is in a life-threatening condition after a shooting on board nuclear submarine HMS Astute. A third Royal Navy serviceman was arrested after police were called to Southampton docks at 1212 BST. A crew member shot two of his crew mates before being overpowered, it is believed. Heavy duty. Although I doubt it has any wider security implications, I'm surprised the story emerged as quickly as it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTeeOwls Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Sad day for the Navy This will happen a lot more if the Government keep slashing man power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTeeOwls Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Apparently it was the council dignitaries that wrestled the gunman to the floor. Yes it was, i have just spoken with my bro who serves in the Submarines he joined and completed his training alongside the lad who has been charged. He's in bits at the minute as you can imagine, but he mentioned that this lad is very shy but is prone to kicking off at times for no apparent reason. He had only spoken with him a couple of months ago and he had mentioned he was hoping to meet up with his schoolmate and good friend Tinie Tempah on his U.K tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Sad day for the Navy This will happen a lot more if the Government keep slashing man power What makes you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Wonders if this was bullying or female related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTeeOwls Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 What makes you say that? The lad had issues with going to sea, it was common knowledge around Faslane that he wasn't cut out for the Submariners, a few incidents had taken place over the last year to highlight the fact he had issues. The reason i said it would happen again is the Navy are running on scraps, not enough trained people in various areas so the lads/lasses are expected to operate like robots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTeeOwls Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Wonders if this was bullying or female related. Maybe so, my bro said that on the subs the atmosphere amongst the fleet is usually greater than that on the ships, but if you do have a problem with someone then little things tend to get magnified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTeeOwls Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Also i wish the media would stop stating he was it full body armour-he was on <removed> guard, thats what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 The lad had issues with going to sea, it was common knowledge around Faslane that he wasn't cut out for the Submariners I thought that submarine duty was purely voluntary. Those who volunteered were subject to psychological tests before being accepted and submariners looked on themselves as a special breed, a little more elite than surface fleet sailors. If the navy is now assigning submarine duty as a matter of course then things must have changed for the worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTeeOwls Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 It was voluntary up until a few years ago, but the Subs now have the capability to stay under water for up to 6 months, so the roles don't get filled, that results in the surface fleet being forced into being trained on the subs. Again the reports in the media are total rubbish, it states the personnel get trained to deal with the mental pressures/stress while submerged, my bro laughed that one straight off, he has never seen such a thing take place. Undermanning in the submarine service is a big problem which has played a major factor in all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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