hannamay Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 I've seen similar stuff happen in there, absolutely no need for 4-5 massive bouncers on one skinny little lad (as is what normally happens) unless the lad is proper kicking off. Power hungry bullies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanes teeth Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 hee hee - I agree!! Sounds like its not the doormen on 'roids!! What you don't seem to realise is that most door security staff where stab and bullet proof clothing due to the dangerous nature of their work. People who turn up in large jackets etc could be hiding anything in the pockets. Venues by law have to employ a minimum amount of security to be allowed to open - without the door staff the place can't open. This can't be right. I go to loads of places that don't have bouncers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kate1984 Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 I got refused entry at christmas into a bar by the doormen, not because im underage, im nearly 27 but because I wouldn't flash them my boobs. they are horrible people (most of them anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTeeOwls Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 I think I can just about understand what you're trying to say, but they don't have to use violence to do it, that's not their job. They're supposed to have training in the correct way to operate and be licensed. That licence can be revoked if they won't/can't behave in a proper manner. Co-sign this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTeeOwls Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 I've seen similar stuff happen in there, absolutely no need for 4-5 massive bouncers on one skinny little lad (as is what normally happens) unless the lad is proper kicking off. Power hungry bullies. Authority gives you a get out of jail card. If i acted like some bouncers i have witnessed, id be on a charge Hypocrisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialPG Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I can completely understand this thread. Doormen in Sheffield have stopped me going out in town now. I'm 35, married etc have never been into trouble but also been into busy nightlife and clubbing. Last november 2 of my wife's friend were visiting from London and we went out in town, early on in the evening we went to an 80's bar on West street, spent 20 mins queuing outside despite being able to see plenty of room inside, when we got to the front of the queue, i was told i couldn't enter, because i had a coat on, i asked if the doorman was joking 'it's minus 2' i said to him as he stood in front of me with the biggest overcoat in the world on. he said no and asked me to moved away from the the door. how embarrassing, we hadn't lived in Sheffield long and the 2 friends had been sold a great night out in Sheffield - how wrong i was. there were policemen nearby too. whilst they didn't want to act on my behave with reasoning with the doorman i got the impression it wasn't first time something ridiculous had happened there. I go to the Sheff View now and haven't been near the city centre since, i've even travelled to my home town of Stoke for a night out rather than going out in sheffield. Stoke ain't the best of nights out but at least the doormen have common sense. Shame on you Sheffield Doormen. Chris W hhhmmm you were probably a victim, not of the doorstaff but the club/pubs policy on dresscode. I.E no stone island, no trainers with bubbles in the soles,baseball/peaked caps, no sports wear including track suit bottoms or tops, no hoodies or in some cases hooded tops of any kind. Each club has thier own criteria on this and on other things aswell, infact i learnt of one last week where a certain bar on west street around the tesco area has bar staff going around and standing outside pubs like the cavendish/vodka rev/varcity to try and entice drinkers to thier bar by giving them VIP wristbands, thier intructions by the manager " only give them to fit people ". The doorstaff were only doing what they are told by the club where they are working and if you look around the door area i bet theres a list of prohibited items of clothing that you can be turned away for wearing as these clothes are more often than not worn by a certain part of society that like to cause trouble and its the clubs way of basically turning these people away without saying " your a trouble causer and your not getting in " unfortunatly doorstaff cant discriminate and all decisions cover anyone who wears these items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petal1980 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 for a good night out head to london for a good laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saving grace Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 This can't be right. I go to loads of places that don't have bouncers. You need to look at Sheffield City Council website and download the Statement of Licensing Policy. I refer you to Part 2 Risk Assessment and Operating Schedules and page 46 imposing conditions on a licence. The policy explains about the 4 main objectives of the licensing laws and how the operating schedule must mitigate for any potential problems which may occur if the licence is granted. The applicant must put in place a series of solutions, laid down in the operating schedule. A licence can be review at anytime (usually by request of the police after an incident), and conditions can be added. The conditions are individual to each premise which is why you don’t always find door staff, toilet attendants etc at all pubs/clubs or on all nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saving grace Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 This can't be right. I go to loads of places that don't have bouncers. You need to check out this link on the Sheffield City Council website and download the Statement of Licensing Policy. http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/business-economy/licensing/general-licensing/alcohol/licensing-act-2003/statement-of-licensing-policy I refer you to Part 2 Risk Assessment and Operating Schedules and page 46 imposing conditions on a licence. The policy explains about the 4 main objectives of the licensing laws and how the operating schedule must mitigate for any potential problems which may occur if the licence is granted. The applicant must put in place a series of solutions, laid down in the operating schedule. A licence can be review at anytime (usually by request of the police after an incident), and conditions can be added. The conditions are individual to each premise which is why you don’t always find door staff, toilet attendants etc at all pubs/clubs or on all nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the falcon Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Shame Redrobbo is on a self imposed sabbatical (he on the licensing committee so would have details of who to contact). you can be sure that only half of the doorstaff will be badged ,the doormen in this city have an underground racket of internet badge copies and thats come from an old hand at the game ,he says its only a case of supplying details of an out of town doormans details with your photo and its done in 7 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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