Tipex Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 What about innocent children born into a poor family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Nobody dare questions it. When has common sense ever prevailed? Kids from smoking houses who come in ill, fat kids with parents who are also fat and don't take them out, adult smokers and drinkers who wonder why they are ill. Instead they get referred to some new initiative - weight loss surgery, stop-smoking classes etc. This is where an insurance system would work - you get ill more, the more it will cost you in premiums, therefore you need to do something about it. As usual it is the lower classes bankrupting the nation - they get benefits, sit and drink and smoke all day, have kids who have various problems due to their upbringing. Draining the state education and state health care. And we let them. When will someone turn round to them and say enough is enough, and start cutting the money? Of course, investment bankers are all from the slums aren't they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 When socialized health care gets passed in the US, that'll be the downfall of the country, majority of Americans do not want it Which is why they voted for Obama? The American health system sounds wonderful. If only it was true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 If the reduction in tax would be more than the cost of insurance (and therefor be net better off), then yes I would rather ditch the NHS in favour of private medical care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 A quick look at the USA tells you what happens when your healthcare is in the hands of people who frankly don't give a s**t about your health. Something the NHS can never be accused of. My thoughts exactly, health insurance is a nice idea, assuming they actually pay out. Some of the stories I hear from my US friends suggest that is not always the case. The NHS isn't perfect, but it's far better than any system thats "for profit". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Prime Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 When socialized health care gets passed in the US, that'll be the downfall of the country, majority of Americans do not want it, we pay for good health care, our premiums pay for the unisured, no one gets turned away, they may not get a private room ect ect but everyone gets treated regardless of what you hear...we have Veterans hospitals in every State, Medicare after you reach retirement age, Medicaid for the uninsured also...at little or no cost. Also free walk-in clincs in every town. The doctors get paid very well, and they should, I want my doctors to be rich and well educated, rich enought to send their children to the best medical schools to carry on their practice, I do not want a doctor operating on me when he had to worry about where his next mortgage payments coming from The majority do not want it? The polls may say that now. Was it not the case that it was a well known fact of Obama's manifesto? That he would obviously continue where Clinton failed? Was it not the case that when he came in the majority were recorded as wanting it but by the time it was going through the relentless campaigning of the right had lowered the approval? In which case like any responsible leader he proceeded anyway. At the end of the day from my knowledge of the American mind, some of which comes from Americans I know the feeling is that "bums" don't count. Why should nice apple pie people pay for workers or the poor? Is the basic feeling in opponents minds. It's also hilarious that 20 years after the cold war people use words like communist or socialist to describe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 When socialized health care gets passed in the US Someone's been watching too much Fox news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenia Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 People should make provision for their old age within their working lives. People who are disabled could be easily looked after by a tax specifically aimed at their needs. The NHS has run its course, it is outmoded and far too expensive. The American system has serious faults but the general level of care is far higher then here. Have any of you actually taken a look at the system you are proposing? Look at what is happening in the US for god's sake! You talk about the 'freeloaders' by that I assume you mean children, who don't pay taxes and the old, who also don't pay taxes? I assume you believe quadriplegic's and other seriously disabled should be humanely terminated to save you money on your taxes? The only 'freeloaders' in the current NHS are the drug companies who have their hands in your pocket stealing money and then not paying their own taxes by basing themselves abroad. These companies are dying (sic) to take over the NHS to scr*w even more money out of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaimani Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 People should make provision for their old age within their working lives. People who are disabled could be easily looked after by a tax specifically aimed at their needs. The NHS has run its course, it is outmoded and far too expensive. The American system has serious faults but the general level of care is far higher then here. for those with the money and the best insurance yes it is. for those with a very basic insurance things can turn very sour when some surgery you need is classed as 'elective' and you find yourself with a bill you couldn't settle even if you sold all your family's kidneys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Can you give us an example of that please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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