Dangerous cyclists

[Bassman62]

A previous home secretary said publicly that he cycled on the pavement, but in reality they ought to just change the law didn't they, then we wouldn't have to have this bit of the discussion.

That must rank as one of the most idiotic replies yet, cyclists a-gogo legaly bombing down the pavements.

[Bassman62]

A cyclist is probably more aware of nearby traffic than a comparable motorist.

What they don't expect though, is a dumb motorist to attempt to illegal overtake whilst the cyclist is also overtaking, nor the motorist to expect them to fly over the obstacle in the road.

 

If there's a surprise in this scenario, it's that a person that stupid can get a license to drive a car.

 

Which part of the following don't you understand?

Taken from the Highway Code

•look all around before moving away from the kerb, turning or manoeuvring, to make sure it is safe to do so. Give a clear signal to show other road users what you intend to do (see 'Signals to other road users')

[Bassman62]

A cyclist is probably more aware of nearby traffic than a comparable motorist.

What they don't expect though, is a dumb motorist to attempt to illegal overtake whilst the cyclist is also overtaking, nor the motorist to expect them to fly over the obstacle in the road.

 

If there's a surprise in this scenario, it's that a person that stupid can get a license to drive a car.

 

Which part of the following don't you understand?

 

From the Highway Code for Cyclists

 

look well ahead for obstructions in the road, such as drains, pot-holes and parked vehicles so that you do not have to swerve suddenly to avoid them.

I suppose you expect motorists to do it for them.

[Bassman62]

im actually quite sad at the above post, its sad that some people have to resort to insults instead of having a properly constructed debate

 

Nothing new about that, it is the usual way of getting threads closed when they've lost the argument.

[Bassman62]

Originally Posted by Tony

They aren't exempt. I can think of a few rules that they should be exempt from but unfortunately people on bicycles are required to adhere to all the same rules as everyone else.?

That is why they should take a test so that they know the rules.

[Bassman62]

You still don't understand what you are quoting. Cyclists are not required or expected to signal every time they deviate course slightly..

 

Inserting out of place (My Bold) words to water down you opponents argument carries no point at all.

[Bassman62]

If police don't stop and issue a ticket to any cyclist caught riding on the pavement/footpath then they are not legaly doing their job!

The police do not have the power to misinterpret the law or choose which laws to enforce.

[Cyclone]

If police don't stop and issue a ticket to any cyclist caught riding on the pavement/footpath then they are not legaly doing their job!

The police do not have the power to misinterpret the law or choose which laws to enforce.

 

So make a complaint, let us know how you get on.

[Squiggs]

Which part of the following don't you understand?

 

From the Highway Code for Cyclists

 

look well ahead for obstructions in the road, such as drains, pot-holes and parked vehicles so that you do not have to swerve suddenly to avoid them.

I suppose you expect motorists to do it for them.

 

Where is anyone suggesting that it's okay to "swerve" out? You really don't understand what you are quoting do you? It doesn't say "come to a stop before any obstruction and wait till Mr Toad has poop-pooped his way past before attempting to negotiate the obstacle". Rather it suggests moving out gradually and early, instead of making sudden deviations where possible (i.e the obstacle is clearly visible up ahead, such as a parked vehicle)

 

Now, which part of the following don't YOU understand?

 

From the Highway Code regarding vulnerable road users

 

212

 

When passing motorcyclists and cyclists, give them plenty of room (see Rules 162-167). If they look over their shoulder it could mean that they intend to pull out, turn right or change direction. Give them time and space to do so.

 

 

213

 

Motorcyclists and cyclists may suddenly need to avoid uneven road surfaces and obstacles such as drain covers or oily, wet or icy patches on the road. Give them plenty of room and pay particular attention to any sudden change of direction they may have to make.

 

 

 

 

And in response to your indignance about having to watch out for others:

 

146

 

Adapt your driving to the appropriate type and condition of road you are on. In particular

 

• do not treat speed limits as a target. It is often not appropriate or safe to drive at the maximum speed limit
  
• take the road and traffic conditions into account. Be prepared for unexpected or difficult situations, for example, the road being blocked beyond a blind bend. Be prepared to adjust your speed as a precaution
  
• where there are junctions, be prepared for road users emerging
  
• in side roads and country lanes look out for unmarked junctions where nobody has priority
  
• be prepared to stop at traffic control systems, road works, pedestrian crossings or traffic lights as necessary
  
• try to anticipate what pedestrians and cyclists might do. If pedestrians, particularly children, are looking the other way, they may step out into the road without seeing you
  

[Cyclone]

Which part of the following don't you understand?

 

From the Highway Code for Cyclists

 

look well ahead for obstructions in the road, such as drains, pot-holes and parked vehicles so that you do not have to swerve suddenly to avoid them.

I suppose you expect motorists to do it for them.

 

I expect motorists to be doing it for themselves

 

Nobody is talking about swerving suddenly though are they, they're talking about moving out to pass a parked vehicle.

 

Whilst we're answering questions, can you answer the one regarding whether you indicate every time you pass a parked vehicle in the road. In Sheffield that would mean that your indicators is never off...