Mecky Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 He has a point, if payments for being out of work are higher than being in payed employment where is the insentive for the long term can't work won't work crew to get into the world of work? Migrant workers in low paid unskilled work are hard workers, they graft and they earn their money, but with a high unemployment rate, was it really necessary to use the level of migrant labour instead of insisting that some of the native work force do the work? I think you'll find that most migrants working in Sainsury's or whatever are part-time employees who are in the UK as students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super8 Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 You're really struggling today aren't you? what ....is ....your ....point ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordChaverly Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Vince Cable has called Cameron's comments "unwise" and has distanced the Libdems from what he says is a Tory policy, not a coalition one. A predictably pathetic response from Cable. This Pavlovian reaction to any prominent figure who calls for a halt to the insane levels of migration into the UK is the standard response of so-called Liberals. The Liberals (or 'Lib-Dems, under their current guise) have opposed every single attempt to curb mass immigration, dating back to the 1960s. Moreover, they have never wanted an open debate on the issue, preferring instead to seek to close down discussion of the issue by accusing the proponents of debate of 'stirring up hatred' etc etc. One only has to remember the almost identical response of the egregious Clegg to Frank Field's remarks on immigration some time back, which were very similar to those of Cameron today. Will Cameron's speech today constitute a watershed in relation to inward migration? I very much doubt it - but I hope I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Hmm.... Government facing negative headlines on a number of fronts & there are elections looming, so the old bogeyman of immigration is wheeled out to curry favour with a hostile electorate. How predictable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 He has a point, if payments for being out of work are higher than being in payed employment where is the insentive for the long term can't work won't work crew to get into the world of work? Migrant workers in low paid unskilled work are hard workers, they graft and they earn their money, but with a high unemployment rate, was it really necessary to use the level of migrant labour instead of insisting that some of the native work force do the work? That's all very well and logical, mj, but how else were Labour going to buy themselves still more electorate for securing their second 7-year mandate, eh? -> you don't bite the hand that feed you and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 That's all very well and logical, mj, but how else were Labour going to buy themselves still more electorate for securing their second 7-year mandate, eh? -> you don't bite the hand that feed you and all that The Land Army of the last century puts current generations to shame. If some of the unskilled people that can't get work were made to go out to the countryside and work the fields, perhaps stay in some sort of organised lodgings for a few days at a time while away from home, they might just find that they enjoy it. They would be fit and healthy. They would be earning money for themselves instead of being paid to do nothing. They would gain a work ethic. Immigration isn't wrong, but governments should be able to turn it on and off like a tap to fill demand, not simply an uncontrolled free for all. And we should look at solving our own problems as per para above before being reliant of migrant labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 The Land Army of the last century puts current generations to shame. If some of the unskilled people that can't get work were made to go out to the countryside and work the fields, perhaps stay in some sort of organised lodgings for a few days at a time while away from home, they might just find that they enjoy it. They would be fit and healthy. They would be earning money for themselves instead of being paid to do nothing. They would gain a work ethic. Cameron and his retro politics huh? Maybe we should all start wearing top hats or something and toil away in workhouses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Cameron and his retro politics huh? Maybe we should all start wearing top hats or something and toil away in workhouses? Workhouses don't exist anymore. Fields that produce cereals and vegetables very much do still exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super8 Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 Cameron and his retro politics huh? Maybe we should all start wearing top hats or something and toil away in workhouses? retro? mass immigration was the best way to bypass the minimum wage and keep more on the minimum wage. how retro is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Workhouses don't exist anymore. Fields that produce cereals and vegetables very much do still exist. Good grief, who said they existed these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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