Getting rather sick of Clegg-bashing now

[donkey]

That wasn't the Tories or the Liberals though, that was down to the previous Labour government under Tony Bliar (deliberate typo, I never did like that bloke!)

 

Labour did introduce tuition fees, true. The Lib/Dems said they would do away with them but instead trebled them.

[msmouse]

Labour did introduce tuition fees, true. The Lib/Dems said they would do away with them but instead trebled them.

 

We do not have a LibDem government, we have a Conseravate-led coalition. It was said coalition that trebled the fees. After such a public pre-election pledge I would imagine that the LibDems would have been against this rise behind the scenes but their hands were forced by the Conservatives on the matter.

[taxman]

We do not have a LibDem government, we have a Conseravate-led coalition. It was said coalition that trebled the fees. After such a public pre-election pledge I would imagine that the LibDems would have been against this rise behind the scenes but their hands were forced by the Conservatives on the matter.

 

Then they should have had a free vote and voted on the issue, after a parliamentary debate, instead of being binded by the coalition document.

 

Their hands were never "forced". They agreed to the coalition document, if it was such a point of principle before the election their negotiators should have stuck to it when drawing up the coalition agreement.

[Grandad.Malky]

Getting rather sick of Clegg-bashing now Get used to it, you`ve seen nothing yet.

[Darth Vader]

Actually at the grass roots level there has been a lot of opposition by the LibDems to the NHS reforms (remember the Spring conference?). Also, the reforms are now being reviewed which may have something to do with the LibDem objections. I simply don't know on this.

 

As regards education reforms (free schools etc?), the Tories were pretty clear in their manifesto as to what they proposed to do.

 

I don't remember them telling us one of the first things they were going to do was scrap the EMA, and allow universities to set their own fees.

[Darth Vader]

I was for AV up until very recently, but now I'm wondering, now Nick has allied himself with evil people who want to destroy the NHS, and nailed his colours to the mast, why would I really want to give his party more of a crack at the whip?

[Akrasia]

I'm talking about tuition fees. That was the major act of betrayal.

 

Yes, voting to raise tuition fees involved breaking a pre-election pledge.

 

Can you think of any other 'acts of betrayal', or was that the only one?

[billo]

I could never get sick of Clegg bashing.

[donkey]

We do not have a LibDem government, we have a Conseravate-led coalition. It was said coalition that trebled the fees.

 

 

So the LibDems aren't responsible for anything they have done? Except for the inconvenient fact that the Tories needed their support to introduce these merasures, and they gave that support, doing a 180 degree turn on what they had promised and thus making it possible for these things to happen, which could not have happened otherwise. They seem to imagine it will blow over, if only they put the right spin on it. It won't.

[harvey19]

The Tories must be doubled up with laughter at all this criticism of the leader of the junior partner in the coalition.

Just like having an old fashioned whipping boy.