evildrneil Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Perhaps a more meaningful question is will Wednesday1 ever get over his sour grapes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 A distinctive, proper Liberal Party could be a breath of fresh air and very popular. But if they pursued realistic policies that might actually address the nation's problems, they would be very unpopular. Most people seem to think that we should go back to a massive debt based bubble economy, creating more and more public sector non-jobs, funded by endless borrowing and money printing (QE). That's the consensus I've garnered from reading Sheffield Forum anyway. The people want free money from out of the bottomless money barrel. That's why they'll vote Labour at the next General Election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 Perhaps a more meaningful question is will Wednesday1 ever get over his sour grapes? Lol! With a bit of luck they may start getting sweeter soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil_m Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I cant see why he should resign.He wanted to give the people 1 chance to change politics for good. The people have that 1 chance on the 5th May and a chance to make it easier to get rid of bad MPs and also a kick up the backside for Westminster Politics.I guess the problem is that this may be the only chance. It is up to the people to decide...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoatwobbler Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Maybe you should read this blogpost from ConservativeHome Wednesday1 http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thetorydiary/2011/04/david-cameron-should-prepare-for-an-early-general-election.html Of course a lot depends on both local election results, and of course the AV referendum. If there is a "No" vote then the chances of a leadership challenge against Clegg increase dramatically. The other factor to take into account is the Lib Dem's chances of a very heavy defeat if Cameron does call a snap election, and how perpared both Labour and Lib Dems are for a snap election. Mind you, I'll still be voting in the AV referendum based on the merits of the voting systems in question, which of course makes me No2AV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted May 2, 2011 Author Share Posted May 2, 2011 Maybe you should read this blogpost from ConservativeHome Wednesday1 http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thetorydiary/2011/04/david-cameron-should-prepare-for-an-early-general-election.html Of course a lot depends on both local election results, and of course the AV referendum. If there is a "No" vote then the chances of a leadership challenge against Clegg increase dramatically. The other factor to take into account is the Lib Dem's chances of a very heavy defeat if Cameron does call a snap election, and how perpared both Labour and Lib Dems are for a snap election. Mind you, I'll still be voting in the AV referendum based on the merits of the voting systems in question, which of course makes me No2AV! Thanks for that, interesting. It looks like the knives will be sharpening already! Some bookies are already paying out people who bet that AV would be rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 It is odd that everyone seems to be missing the greatest prize concession that Clegg won as part of the coalition agreement. That was for a reform of the House of Lords. The reform would give the Libdems a far greater say in the upper chamber, and possibly the power balance. If as some on here are suggesting there was an early election that concession would be lost and all those sacrifices would be for nothing. It doesn't make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Maybe you should read this blogpost from ConservativeHome Wednesday1 http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thetorydiary/2011/04/david-cameron-should-prepare-for-an-early-general-election.html Of course a lot depends on both local election results, and of course the AV referendum. If there is a "No" vote then the chances of a leadership challenge against Clegg increase dramatically. The other factor to take into account is the Lib Dem's chances of a very heavy defeat if Cameron does call a snap election, and how perpared both Labour and Lib Dems are for a snap election. Mind you, I'll still be voting in the AV referendum based on the merits of the voting systems in question, which of course makes me No2AV! this might be the tories wet dream material but it is no more than that. the sane challenger's for the leadership are all embedded in the coalition so replacing clegg won't achieve anything. anyone from outside this inner circle won't dare challenge as they know they will be leading the party into a wipeout and from their point of view it would be better to take the leadership after rather than before defeat. the lib dems only chance of survival is to see the parliament through to the end and hope for the best. an alternative scenario is for the party to split, the left of the party reforms the sdp and clegg leads the remnant of the party into oblivion at the next election. either way the coalition survives! if cameron was to call a snap election, i really don't think that he would do much better than he did last year, and would probably do worse. the only hope for a conservative majority government is for them to see the parliament through to the end in the hope of enough of a recovery to bolster support in the floating voter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 at the end of the day he is the tories puppet As opposed to being Labour's puppet had he joined in a coalition with them? At the end of the day whichever party the Liberals joined with they would have been the junior partner because they got far fewer seats. They could of course have gone it alone and left the Conservatives to struggle on with no overall majority, but surely after the financial mess Brown has left us with we need strong Government to sort that mess out. I don't think a coalition is an ideal option, but under the current financial circumstances I consider it to be the best option available. Maybe it would have been better had the Liberals sided with Labour, at least then Labour could be left to sort their own mess out!! Regards Doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emma royd Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Its sort of amusing how the left has the knives out for Clegg. He actually led his party into power and obtained the referendum that they sought. It isn't his fault if the electorate won't deliver a Yes vote. It seems to me that the person with most to lose in the vote would be Cameron. He is the one who upset his party grass roots by making the concession for an AV vote. If the country voted Yes to AV it would probably be the end for Cameron. I presume that's why Milliband is backing AV and is about to miss an open goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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