mapleboy Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Clegg is a political opportunist, so he is extremely unlikely to resign when it's "No". The previous general election was his (and the LibDems) one and only chance to be in office, he/they jumped at it and sold their souls. Both they and the Tories more or less tore up their manifestos to satisfy the other to be able to form the current coalition. So the wishes of every Tory and LibDem voter have been ignored by the parties they voted for on the grounds of the ambitions of individual politicians. But that's what you'll ALWAYS get with any electoral system that isn't FPTP. Back-door deals that no one votes on. AV means the LibDems would always be kingmakers and thus always in power - totally undemocratic. God help this country if we end up like Italy or Israel where small (and occasionally extreme) parties hold the balance of power. You have been warned. VOTE NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 Clegg is a political opportunist, so he is extremely unlikely to resign when it's "No". The previous general election was his (and the LibDems) one and only chance to be in office, he/they jumped at it and sold their souls. Both they and the Tories more or less tore up their manifestos to satisfy the other to be able to form the current coalition. So the wishes of every Tory and LibDem voter have been ignored by the parties they voted for on the grounds of the ambitions of individual politicians. But that's what you'll ALWAYS get with any electoral system that isn't FPTP. Back-door deals that no one votes on. AV means the LibDems would always be kingmakers and thus always in power - totally undemocratic. God help this country if we end up like Italy or Israel where small (and occasionally extreme) parties hold the balance of power. You have been warned. VOTE NO. Excellent post, succinctly sums things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Excellent post, succinctly sums things up. and yet the oh so perfect first past the post produced this coalition............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 and yet the oh so perfect first past the post produced this coalition............ But it doesn't usually do that. It will be simple to get rid of them at the next election too. Just vote labour:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandad.Malky Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Not sure what you imply. Would you rather that the tories had complete free reign over what happened to the nhs? No because they didnt get enough votes until Clegg bailed them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 and yet the oh so perfect first past the post produced this coalition............ I thought you supported it!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I had thought it was much closer than that.Not sure how you can arrive at that figure.82.5% is quite specific. Sorry. 72.5% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil_m Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 No because they didnt get enough votes until Clegg bailed them out. Had he not gone in to coalition then you would have no overall control by any party and the markets would have gone in to freefall.I dont think people realise just what a state the economy was in at that time and the only thing to do was to do something rather than nothing. If you think back the day after they had agreed to work together the markets steadied and we managed to maintain our credit status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil_m Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Clegg is a political opportunist, so he is extremely unlikely to resign when it's "No". The previous general election was his (and the LibDems) one and only chance to be in office, he/they jumped at it and sold their souls. Both they and the Tories more or less tore up their manifestos to satisfy the other to be able to form the current coalition. So the wishes of every Tory and LibDem voter have been ignored by the parties they voted for on the grounds of the ambitions of individual politicians. But that's what you'll ALWAYS get with any electoral system that isn't FPTP. Back-door deals that no one votes on. AV means the LibDems would always be kingmakers and thus always in power - totally undemocratic. God help this country if we end up like Italy or Israel where small (and occasionally extreme) parties hold the balance of power. You have been warned. VOTE NO. I think that Stephen fry explains it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandad.Malky Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 If you think back the day after they had agreed to work together the markets steadied and we managed to maintain our credit status. All thanks to super Nick ………… ya right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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