Gram? Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Here are the reasons why pubs are closing down: Enterprise Inns Punch Taverns Trust Inns Admiral Taverns and many more pub companies. Basically, if a pubs starts to show a profit they raise rents and beer prices for the land lord, basically making it more and more difficult for the landlord to make a profit and keep the pub financially viable. A lot of pubs are dingy horrible places that havent seen a lick of paint or new carpet for ages, landlords can not afford to do anything because of the amount they pay out. Prices of £3+ a pint are not uncommon in locals now and this will get worse until they all close. It's also almost as if the pub co's want them to close, it could have something to do with repeatedly selling fixtures / fittings / good will etc each time a pub re-opens. Also, a lot of the pub co's are heavily in debt and now appear to be seriously shrinking their portfolios. As well as the above, duty on alcohol, cheap supermarket prices, and the fact a lot of people are skint! Nah, it's the smoking ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ sheffield Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Nah, it's the smoking ban. :hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 The pub car parks used to be full at one time,I don't like drinking and driving but I did used to have a drive and a couple of pints myself,but now days if you even smell like you have had a sip of beer the coppers are on your case, and a ban and public ostracising for life will be on the cards, theirs just no fun in going out any more the pubs all seem to be full of nob heads and drug heads,the community spirit has gone from our pubs,its a shame but it seems the way of the world at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike84 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Nah, it's the smoking ban. well, that as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sues_budgie Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Why are pubs in decline? Younger people socialise online - 15 years ago, if you wanted to socialise you had to go out of the house. Facebook did not exsist, or of it did, fewer people used it Dating online ---> 15 years ago, unless you were naturally a loner, then in order to meet someone from the opposite sex you had to leave the house. Quite often the Friday night out was a good way to do this. These days, you can go onto a website and choose someone, if you click then you may meet and possibly go to the pub, or do something else (probably a night in for a bit of hanky panky) Drinks --> In town, your £3.50 will get you a pint of carling, yet for £3.99, you can get 4 cans of carling from tesco.....if you meet the person you met online, with hanky panky plus a few cans, a cheap randy night can be enjoyed by todays teenagers. so in a nutshell, many pubs are doomed. I can see a growth in specialised pubs such as the Kelham Island. I can see the logic of paying £5 for cherry beer, yet I cannot see the point in paying £3.50 for a pint of carling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 Why are pubs in decline? Younger people socialise online - 15 years ago, if you wanted to socialise you had to go out of the house. Facebook did not exsist, or of it did, fewer people used it Dating online ---> 15 years ago, unless you were naturally a loner, then in order to meet someone from the opposite sex you had to leave the house. Quite often the Friday night out was a good way to do this. These days, you can go onto a website and choose someone, if you click then you may meet and possibly go to the pub, or do something else (probably a night in for a bit of hanky panky) Drinks --> In town, your £3.50 will get you a pint of carling, yet for £3.99, you can get 4 cans of carling from tesco.....if you meet the person you met online, with hanky panky plus a few cans, a cheap randy night can be enjoyed by todays teenagers. so in a nutshell, many pubs are doomed. I can see a growth in specialised pubs such as the Kelham Island. I can see the logic of paying £5 for cherry beer, yet I cannot see the point in paying £3.50 for a pint of carling Social networking face book ect what a load of looses they are, I'm glad I dint have rely on it for a bit of hanky panky in my day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex3659 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 A few years ago I used to run a pub in Telford and it was packed every night, there was at least six pubs in the neighbourhood all of them busy every night of the week,me and the missus went for a nostalgic look around at the week end and the pub was boarded up and a car wash had established itself in the car park, the next pub was an Indian eating house the next one old people's flats, its the same every where you go all the pubs closing down some of these pubs where the centre of the community for hundreds of years, why know is that is so different from the past that all these pubs are closing down, we've been through harder times than now in the past. I lived in Ironbridge next door and got a shock when I went back. A quiet little village is now like a holiday resort. I used to live in the Meadow pub and there were only three pubs there then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Here are the reasons why pubs are closing down: Enterprise Inns Punch Taverns Trust Inns Admiral Taverns and many more pub companies. Basically, if a pubs starts to show a profit they raise rents and beer prices for the land lord, basically making it more and more difficult for the landlord to make a profit and keep the pub financially viable. A lot of pubs are dingy horrible places that havent seen a lick of paint or new carpet for ages, landlords can not afford to do anything because of the amount they pay out. Prices of £3+ a pint are not uncommon in locals now and this will get worse until they all close. It's also almost as if the pub co's want them to close, it could have something to do with repeatedly selling fixtures / fittings / good will etc each time a pub re-opens. Also, a lot of the pub co's are heavily in debt and now appear to be seriously shrinking their portfolios. As well as the above, duty on alcohol, cheap supermarket prices, and the fact a lot of people are skint! The pubcos you mention are more or less just property companies now, they couldn't care less about the actual business of running a pub. They need to service their massive debts so hike prices of both beer and rents. When the pub fails they then happily put the building on the market, whilst slapping on a restrictive covenant to prevent anyone else taking it over as a pub and doing a better job. Now look at the owners of The Blake/Sheaf View, the Fat Cat, The Kelham Island, The Cask and Wellie. The owners run the business. It's their bread and butter, if the pub fails they fail. Unlike Punch/Enterprise etc they have a personal stake in the business. Surprise, surprise these pubs are doing well. Their prices are reasonable and drinks varied and good. They care about their pubs, they don't just see them as property stock to be sold to the highest bidder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 I lived in Ironbridge next door and got a shock when I went back. A quiet little village is now like a holiday resort. I used to live in the Meadow pub and there was only three pubs there then. I ran the cross keys on haybridge road across from the flats and also the Thomas Telford leegomery . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptowngirl Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 You can sit outside to smoke if theres an outside bit. Why would I want to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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