harvey19 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 A very thought provoking thread. I think the phrase;" Died serving their country" is appropriate. This way the death of a serviceman or woman can be honoured even if the conflict they were involved in is not supported by others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 A very thought provoking thread. I think the phrase;" Died serving their country" is appropriate. I'm not so sure, that implies that their actions are actually in the interests of the citizenry, and not just the few in power. 'Died serving their government' doesn't sound as good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I'm not so sure, that implies that their actions are actually in the interests of the citizenry, and not just the few in power. 'Died serving their government' doesn't sound as good though. The more I think about it and recall what my father and grandfather, who both served in world wars,used to say and my own experiences I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meyouus Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 The more I think about it and recall what my father and grandfather, who both served in world wars,used to say and my own experiences I wonder. me my dad his dad and his dad all joined for the adventure a sense of duty and to earn a living. my great grandads dad had the choice of jail or the army, im told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 me my dad his dad and his dad all joined for the adventure a sense of duty and to earn a living. my great grandads dad had the choice of jail or the army, im told. We took an oath to serve queen and country and that is what soldiers are doing when killed on active service. So the phrase should probably be," Died serving queen and country". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 'they died for your freedom' is a cliched, overused lie. Its true in about 0.01% of times that it is said imo. Can't say I've heard it that much tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meyouus Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 We took an oath to serve queen and country and that is what soldiers are doing when killed on active service. So the phrase should probably be," Died serving queen and country". spot on. David mulley 20 RIP 18TH MARCH 1986. I always thought it strange remembering him first rather than any of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 And I'm sure you'd agree we can't keep using WWII as a reason to continually recite the phrase "they die(d) for our freedom" as a justification for all following conflicts. I think it very much depends on the purpose of the conflict, the reasons for going to war and what is hoped to be achieved by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsalleh Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 me my dad his dad and his dad all joined for the adventure a sense of duty and to earn a living. my great grandads dad had the choice of jail or the army, im told. I think these are some of the reasons why most people join the armed forces. We took an oath to serve queen and country and that is what soldiers are doing when killed on active service. So the phrase should probably be," Died serving queen and country". When the time comes to fulfill the oath,the idea is to make the other guy die for his country,as General Patton said (in the film anyway).I don't think those on active service think about much more than waking up the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Can't say I've heard it that much tbh. Yeah you're right, I would've had to have heard it 10000+ times to be able to say it's only true 0.01% of the time, I was exaggerating for effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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