Jessica23 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 It isn't a misogynistic double standard, it's a feminists double standard. As much as it pains me to say it, men can't take any credit for this one. You are telling me that the sexual double standard is something feminists have created? Really now? You are wasting your time because, as you say, some contributors are short on the sort of terminology you'd expect to find in a discourse on this subject. I strongly suspect that years of unchallenged male gaze media are to blame. Clearly. I think I'll leave it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Right so Baywatch was the most popular program in the world due to the original plots and brilliant acting was it?To my recollection Pamela Anderson was the main attraction. I don't recall anyone ever commenting on her swimwear though or any feminists being critical of it for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 No moving goal posts here. To what degree is swimwear commercially sexualised?- 2%?.. 10%? I think you're telling porkies Chris. The only commercially sexualised swimwear I can recall seeing was worn by Ursula Andress in Dr No. Could this be what you're thinking of Chris? So you can't recall the other females in swimwear in Bond films, Baywatch, Pirelli Calendars, a not insignificant portion of music videos... maybe you should go and see a doctor your memory seems worryingly full of holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 No moving goal posts here. To what degree is swimwear commercially sexualised?- 2%?.. 10%? I think you're telling porkies Chris. The only commercially sexualised swimwear I can recall seeing was worn by Ursula Andress in Dr No. Could this be what you're thinking of Chris? Let's for one nano second accept that swimsuits are not commercially sexualised. What women's clothing is? And if so, what items are commercialised as sluttish? Also what equivalent mens clothing is marketed as sluttish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 So you can't recall the other females in swimwear in Bond films, Baywatch, Pirelli Calendars, a not insignificant portion of music videos... maybe you should go and see a doctor your memory seems worryingly full of holes. The Sun, Sunday Sport. The list is endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 To my recollection Pamela Anderson was the main attraction. I don't recall anyone ever commenting on her swimwear though or any feminists being critical of it for that matter. And what clothes was Ms Anderson wearing when she was attractng people to Bay Watch? Besides iirc Bay Watch was popular both before Ms Anderson joined and after she left, women in swimwear on the other hand were a permanent fixture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 A contradiction.It's not a contradiction. I said the swimwear worn by Ursula Andress in Dr No is all I can recall. I was using past tense, ie- Not nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I'm afraid the double standard you refer to isn't due to misogynistic attitudes, it's due to feminist attitudes. It seems women like to have their cake and eat it when it comes to the 'sexualiation of women'. One minute women are criticising men for being disrespectful when leering at them when they wear provocative clothing that sexualises them. The next minute they're wagging their finger and blaming the likes of MTV, the Sun, The Sunday sport and Nuts magazine, etc, for the commercial sexualisation of women. Which is a womans prerogative I presume. It may well be laughable from a feminists point of view, but it certainly isn't hypocritical. And the feminists on the slutwalks are the same as the ones who object to Nuts magazine are they? The recent anti-playboy protest for example was organised by UK Feminista & Object they have no mention of Slutwalks on their websites. Feminists are anything but a monolithic bloc and different people within the movement disagree with each other about many things such as whether or not the likes of playboy are subjects of concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Had the genders been reversed it would have never got to court such is the misandrist society we live in. Extraordinary, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 It's not a contradiction. I said the swimwear worn by Ursula Andress in Dr No is all I can recall. I was using past tense, ie- Not nowadays. "Not nowadays" What's her face from popstars relaunch her career by appearing in a bikini on that jungle program. I'm aware of this and I don't even have a TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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