skinz Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 The figure relates to the 200,000 lives that are terminated each year through abortion and if you are interested in all forms of defined child abuse then it's Mothers who come out on top. So you win again. When a pregnancy is terminated it's a foetus not a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streamline Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I'm sorry and although at first glance it looks like an off the cuff remark, unfortunately its true. Perhaps not in relation to Halibut, but in general. I've seen it first hand. A good looking feminist will attract more support than a 23 stone one, in boiler suit who's sporting a nice tash. Its funny how some men suddenly become interested in "women's issues" when the woman is a cutie. I've never seen you, I don't know anything about you but could tell in an instance by the crawling tone of some of your followers, that you're a cutie. The problem you now have is trying to decide who really believes in your cause and those who just plain and simple fancy you. Men will take up any sort of interest if there's a good looking woman involved. :love: You got any pictures there Frank? :hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streamline Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 When a pregnancy is terminated it's a foetus not a child. Foetus or child it's still a life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quisquose Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Yes you're quite right, I was rather placing the cart before the horse. You had me worried there for a moment boyfriday, I'm pleased if the penny has dropped. Let me just get this off my chest before bedtime. The fact that there is a +ve correlation between rapists and misogynistic views, such as girls dressed in a certain way are "asking for it", is hardly surprising. However, there is no evidence of correlation between clothing and rape. If that seems odd to anybody, then as somebody that does a fair amount of statistical analysis I can assure you it's not. Opportunity. Whilst leaving your doors unlocked makes it easier for someone to rob your house, dressing sexily does nothing to make it easier for someone to rape you. Getting unconscious from alcohol or drugs, or going to the home of a stranger does make it easier. Temptation. The rhetoric goes on the baseless assumption that the more attractively a woman dresses, the more likely it is a rapist will target her because he is tempted. This is simply not true. Rape is about power and is most often done when it is convenient, as most victims are raped by people they know or who already have some sort of power over them. Family members, the mentally ill and drunk or drugged women are most likely to be victims of rape. Even if a rapist is tempted by a woman in attractive clothing, the ultimate victim will be the one that is presented by opportunity. Freedom. Everyone seems to be forgetting that sometimes women dress in an attractive way because they WANT TO, and sometimes even because they DO want to attract attention – of the consensual kind. Blaming the woman for wanting to look attractive is like blaming a store owner for having such nice things in his store, after the store is subject to an armed robbery. Clearly the owner should cover up and hide all the nice things so no one wants to steal them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I'm sorry and although at first glance it looks like an off the cuff remark, unfortunately its true. Perhaps not in relation to Halibut, but in general. I've seen it first hand. A good looking feminist will attract more support than a 23 stone one, in boiler suit who's sporting a nice tash. Its funny how some men suddenly become interested in "women's issues" when the woman is a cutie. I've never seen you, I don't know anything about you but could tell in an instance by the crawling tone of some of your followers, that you're a cutie. The problem you now have is trying to decide who really believes in your cause and those who just plain and simple fancy you. Men will take up any sort of interest if there's a good looking woman involved. :love: Considering she only made an appearance yesterday and the thread is , how long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 Considering she only made an appearance yesterday and the thread is , how long? She's been around for years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Opportunity. Whilst leaving your car doors unlocked makes it easier for someone to rob your house, dressing sexily does nothing to make it easier for someone to rape you. Getting unconscious from alcohol or drugs, or going to the home of a stranger does make it easier. That's a good analogy that brings it into crystal clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streamline Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 You had me worried there for a moment boyfriday, I'm pleased if the penny has dropped. Let me just get this off my chest before bedtime. The fact that there is a +ve correlation between rapists and misogynistic views, such as girls dressed in a certain way are "asking for it", is hardly surprising. However, there is no evidence of correlation between clothing and rape. If that seems odd to anybody, then as somebody that does a fair amount of statistical analysis I can assure you it's not. Opportunity. Whilst leaving your car doors unlocked makes it easier for someone to rob your house, dressing sexily does nothing to make it easier for someone to rape you. Getting unconscious from alcohol or drugs, or going to the home of a stranger does make it easier. Temptation. The rhetoric goes on the baseless assumption that the more attractively a woman dresses, the more likely it is a rapist will target her because he is tempted. This is simply not true. Rape is about power and is most often done when it is convenient, as most victims are raped by people they know or who already have some sort of power over them. Family members, the mentally ill and drunk or drugged women are most likely to be victims of rape. Even if a rapist is tempted by a woman in attractive clothing, the ultimate victim will be the one that is presented by opportunity. Freedom. Everyone seems to be forgetting that sometimes women dress in an attractive way because they WANT TO, and sometimes even because they DO want to attract attention – of the consensual kind. Blaming the woman for wanting to look attractive is like blaming a store owner for having such nice things in his store, after the store is subject to an armed robbery. Clearly the owner should cover up and hide all the nice things so no one wants to steal them. I take you will own this as opinon because we have been told many times now that no research has ever been carried out on this subject except where advocay research has taken place. I love this bit:- "Whilst leaving your car doors unlocked makes it easier for someone to rob your house dressing sexily doesn't lead to victimisation". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 You had me worried there for a moment boyfriday, I'm pleased if the penny has dropped. Let me just get this off my chest before bedtime. The fact that there is a +ve correlation between rapists and misogynistic views, such as girls dressed in a certain way are "asking for it", is hardly surprising. However, there is no evidence of correlation between clothing and rape. If that seems odd to anybody, then as somebody that does a fair amount of statistical analysis I can assure you it's not. Opportunity. Whilst leaving your car doors unlocked makes it easier for someone to rob your house, dressing sexily does nothing to make it easier for someone to rape you. Getting unconscious from alcohol or drugs, or going to the home of a stranger does make it easier. Temptation. The rhetoric goes on the baseless assumption that the more attractively a woman dresses, the more likely it is a rapist will target her because he is tempted. This is simply not true. Rape is about power and is most often done when it is convenient, as most victims are raped by people they know or who already have some sort of power over them. Family members, the mentally ill and drunk or drugged women are most likely to be victims of rape. Even if a rapist is tempted by a woman in attractive clothing, the ultimate victim will be the one that is presented by opportunity. Freedom. Everyone seems to be forgetting that sometimes women dress in an attractive way because they WANT TO, and sometimes even because they DO want to attract attention – of the consensual kind. Blaming the woman for wanting to look attractive is like blaming a store owner for having such nice things in his store, after the store is subject to an armed robbery. Clearly the owner should cover up and hide all the nice things so no one wants to steal them. Its not about rape though is it, the police officer wasn't specifically advising how not to be raped. He said "victimised"...This can mean any sort of minor offence. Like this scenario. A drunken oaf sees a girl in a very short skirt. He (wrongly) assumes that she game. He touches her. She turns and slaps his face. The blokes sister sees this and dives on the girl dragging her to the floor. A brawl develops. Of course the girl in a short skirt has done nothing wrong but because of her clothing and the oafs reaction an incident occurred. I feel this is more what the officer was advising about, not how to avoid rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 She's been around for years... I wouldn't know. You do seem to have a thing for suffy considering your post count with her. I think she's showering now at the thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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