The IKEA in Sheffield thread

[Ms Macbeth]

Just been to Ikea in Gateshead which is at the side of the Metro Centre, traffic was busy

and the Ikea car park nearly full and it's a large area.

 

However it only took us 5 mins to park and then later about 5 mins to get onto the

Western Bypass to drive up north towards home.

 

The Metro Centre and surrounding shops were heaving but everyone managed.

 

SCC need to get a mirror and seriously look at themselves the whole Ikea planning

or refusal is a complete farce. They should listen to their community views.

 

Unfortunately, in many respects I feel SCC listens to the views of residents less now than it did. I'm pleased that IKEA is to open, not that I'll be buying much there, but it will bring jobs. The more employment in an area, the better for everyone.

[Pipe Ten]

I'm pleased that IKEA is to open, not that I'll be buying much there, but it will bring jobs. The more employment in an area, the better for everyone.

 

True, just imagine how much money has left the Sheffield area and gone to pay wages to people in the Leeds and Nottingham IKEAs.

 

I think everybody I know in Sheffield has shopped at IKEA at some point.

 

^Gav

[Saffy]

by the time this gets built , anything from IKEA will be out of fashion

 

Luckily IKEA produce different products every year for every budget

[mogwai84]

Luckily IKEA produce different products every year for every budget

 

Definitely.

 

I've noticed a significant increase in the quality of their latest range. Their fairly new armchairs and seats are fantastic value. EKENÄSET and STRANDMON in particular.

 

Also their kitchens are good quality, excellent value and truly DIY.

[MunXy]

People seem intent on pointing out the negatives of extra traffic etc, but considering the traffic and SCC dismal ideas for improving congestion (see any morning getting into town or the acclaimed Derek Dooley way congestion relief ring road) their inability to understand that blocking off routes in and out of the city centre to all but taxi's and buses has had a huge detrimental effect on the city centre in sheffield and in turn the economic growth of it, simple example bottom of Dixon lane, they close a car park and build offices and hotels, where prey tell are the people coming to work at the offices going to park or visitors using all these many hotels parking, multi story car parks are hated by many drivers and on the whole a moneymaker for the SCC, But I digress, sheffield has allegedly had billions invested from various sources to improve roads in our fair city and to lose our unenviable nick name of "pothole city", has anyone seen any vast improvement except the Tour de France route?

Why not use this investment to improve not only the actual road surfaces, but the infrastructure as a whole, which In turn brings in investment to improve sheffield's economy and our national and international profile, who wants to invest in a city where the roads are so bad?

Just my thoughts on the situation.

[Planner1]

People seem intent on pointing out the negatives of extra traffic etc, but considering the traffic and SCC dismal ideas for improving congestion (see any morning getting into town or the acclaimed Derek Dooley way congestion relief ring road) their inability to understand that blocking off routes in and out of the city centre to all but taxi's and buses has had a huge detrimental effect on the city centre in sheffield and in turn the economic growth of it, simple example bottom of Dixon lane, they close a car park and build offices and hotels, where prey tell are the people coming to work at the offices going to park or visitors using all these many hotels parking, multi story car parks are hated by many drivers and on the whole a moneymaker for the SCC, But I digress, sheffield has allegedly had billions invested from various sources to improve roads in our fair city and to lose our unenviable nick name of "pothole city", has anyone seen any vast improvement except the Tour de France route?

Why not use this investment to improve not only the actual road surfaces, but the infrastructure as a whole, which In turn brings in investment to improve sheffield's economy and our national and international profile, who wants to invest in a city where the roads are so bad?

Just my thoughts on the situation.

 

Derek Dooley Way is NOT a congestion relief scheme, it was designed to relive an area of the city from THROUGH traffic in order to aid redevelopment. They didn't add any additional road capacity.

 

Through traffic in the city centre area is seen as detrimental to creating a place where people want to live, visit, shop and do business. Pretty much every major city looks to discourage through traffic and encourage drivers to use a ring road.

 

Some of the road closures, one way systems etc are actually used to promote the smoother flow of traffic, as having multiple junctions on a route where all movements are allowed introduces blockages and delays.

 

All cities have peak hour traffic congestion. Anyone who actually visits other cities will tell you that traffic congestion in Sheffield is not bad at all. Have you tried getting into Leeds or Manchester in the morning peak hours?

 

The Streets Ahead contract has been specifically introduced to improve the condition of the existing highway network. Money has been obtained from the Government and banks for that purpose and the Council are not allowed to use it for anything else.

[sgtkate]

Derek Dooley Way is NOT a congestion relief scheme, it was designed to relive an area of the city from THROUGH traffic in order to aid redevelopment. They didn't add any additional road capacity.

 

Through traffic in the city centre area is seen as detrimental to creating a place where people want to live, visit, shop and do business. Pretty much every major city looks to discourage through traffic and encourage drivers to use a ring road.

 

Some of the road closures, one way systems etc are actually used to promote the smoother flow of traffic, as having multiple junctions on a route where all movements are allowed introduces blockages and delays.

 

All cities have peak hour traffic congestion. Anyone who actually visits other cities will tell you that traffic congestion in Sheffield is not bad at all. Have you tried getting into Leeds or Manchester in the morning peak hours?

 

The Streets Ahead contract has been specifically introduced to improve the condition of the existing highway network. Money has been obtained from the Government and banks for that purpose and the Council are not allowed to use it for anything else.

 

Afraid to say I mostly agree with Planner1 here. Traffic in Sheffield really, really isn't bad. It's clear only people who never have to get to another city centre as rush hour think it is.

However, some of the road changes over the last few years have been 'odd' to say the least.

Making cars turn left if they are coming from Charter Row roundabout towards Arundel Gate/Eyre Street down Furnival Gate is insanity. It's STILL FAR, FAR quicker for me to go on the hilarious detour up Cambridge Street than to go via the ring road, yet I now have to drive up through a major pedestrian area and past multiple parked cars which is far less safe than if I'd just been allowed to go straight on down Furnival Gate. The argument that the city is split in 2 by Furnival Gate is laughable as it STILL is split EXACTLY as it was before...Add to this the (predominantly) taxis doing illegal u-turns on Pinstone Street nearly wiping out unexpecting pedestrians and you have an utter disaster of road planning. Please, please review it SCC.

[WalkleyIan]

has anyone seen any vast improvement except the Tour de France route?

 

Yes its loads better, try Fulwood, Nether Green, Walkley West , Rivelin, Loxley, one half of Crookes, Broomhill, Broomhall etc etc....

 

In fact most of what this map says they will have done by 2015 has been done

 

https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/roads/works/schemes/streetsaheadproject/works-schedules/works-map.html

[AndrewC]

Making cars turn left if they are coming from Charter Row roundabout towards Arundel Gate/Eyre Street down Furnival Gate is insanity. It's STILL FAR, FAR quicker for me to go on the hilarious detour up Cambridge Street than to go via the ring road, yet I now have to drive up through a major pedestrian area and past multiple parked cars which is far less safe than if I'd just been allowed to go straight on down Furnival Gate. The argument that the city is split in 2 by Furnival Gate is laughable as it STILL is split EXACTLY as it was before...Add to this the (predominantly) taxis doing illegal u-turns on Pinstone Street nearly wiping out unexpecting pedestrians and you have an utter disaster of road planning. Please, please review it SCC.

 

They don't want you to do that; they want to discourage as much traffic between Furnival Sq and Charter Sq. The only reason they still have the busses going left off Pinstone Street to Furnival Sq and then back on themselves is because they worked out that was still quicker than introducing a new traffic sequence at Moorhead to let them turn right straight towards Charter Sq.

 

If they review it/change it any more than they already have then they will probably just try and stop eastbound access altogether. In fact, if and when any kind of development around the Grosvenor Hotel site/Retail Quarter happens, I would imagine they will separate the two roundabouts completely, so you can only access each from the Ring Road. I bet one day there will be just one road, off Pinstone Street, turning right at Moorhead and the down on to a most pedestrianised Charter Sq. Access from Furnival Gate will probably be limited to Union Street.

 

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Yes its loads better, try Fulwood, Nether Green, Walkley West , Rivelin, Loxley, one half of Crookes, Broomhill, Broomhall etc etc....

 

In fact most of what this map says they will have done by 2015 has been done

 

https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/roads/works/schemes/streetsaheadproject/works-schedules/works-map.html

 

Agree. I've seen loads of resurfaced main roads/neighbourhoods away from TdF routes.

 

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simple example bottom of Dixon lane, they close a car park and build offices and hotels, where prey tell are the people coming to work at the offices going to park or visitors using all these many hotels parking, multi story car parks are hated by many drivers and on the whole a moneymaker for the SCC

 

Drivers hate multi-story car parks? Which car park did they close? I'm sure there was some surface parking, but surely not as many spaces as there now are in the Q-Park which replaced it? How do you think the city centre would look if there were only surface car parks?

 

How do SCC make money from the Q-Park (private company) down there apart from some business rates? I imagine a lot of the hotels round there probably have agreements for cheap spaces in local MS car parks. As for the office workers, not many offices in any city come with a parking space for every employee! Those offices are within 2 minutes walk of virtually every tram and bus route...

 

But I digress, sheffield has allegedly had billions invested from various sources to improve roads in our fair city and to lose our unenviable nick name of "pothole city", has anyone seen any vast improvement except the Tour de France route?

 

Yes? I don't think much of Amey, and the project is not without it's issues so far, but the answer to your question is yes.

 

Why not use this investment to improve not only the actual road surfaces, but the infrastructure as a whole

 

Because that isn't the reason the Government gave SCC the money.

[sgtkate]

They don't want you to do that; they want to discourage as much traffic between Furnival Sq and Charter Sq. The only reason they still have the busses going left off Pinstone Street to Furnival Sq and then back on themselves is because they worked out that was still quicker than introducing a new traffic sequence at Moorhead to let them turn right straight towards Charter Sq.

 

If they review it/change it any more than they already have then they will probably just try and stop eastbound access altogether. In fact, if and when any kind of development around the Grosvenor Hotel site/Retail Quarter happens, I would imagine they will separate the two roundabouts completely, so you can only access each from the Ring Road. I bet one day there will be just one road, off Pinstone Street, turning right at Moorhead and the down on to a most pedestrianised Charter Sq. Access from Furnival Gate will probably be limited to Union Street.

 

 

I fully understand why they did it. I'm saying it doesn't work and it almost certainly increases congestion and reduces safety for pedestrians.