The IKEA in Sheffield thread

[Waister]

Absolute rubbish. The Council didn't fight Ikea's planning application at this site, they approved it, despite the fact that they recognise it will make traffic conditions worse (and they've conditioned some highway improvements on the Ikea store development to mitigate this, at least partly

 

According to ikea, over 70% of their customers travel to their stores by car.

Will this be a highway improvement that actually makes it easier and quicker for motorists to get into and out of the area?

From past performance I'm expecting scc to install enough traffic lights to make the area visible from the moon, a bus lane,and cause traffic queues in every direction for miles around.:loopy:

[Bludragonfly]

Good point, future generations will go less and less to the store and just buy online anyway.

Building another expensive store with loads of expenses will become a riskier investment when 50% of future customers prefer to click it.

(that number is imaginative and not based on any investigative facts)

 

 

I think most people will still want to sit on a sofa / chair or lay on a bed before buying but, as B&Q and Tesco have found, shopping trends have changed and people don't want everything in all in one store in the same way they did 5-20 years ago

[ormester101]

went to Leeds ikea last week a staff member asked for our address he said Sheffield yes we said he said the manager had been in steel work starts autumn and open late 2017. and the Leeds one was packed

[dutch]

went to Leeds ikea last week a staff member asked for our address he said Sheffield yes we said he said the manager had been in steel work starts autumn and open late 2017. and the Leeds one was packed

 

12 1/2 year ago this topic was started on SF and it is still going.

We don't shop much at Ikea anymore, had a kitchen tap, one ceiling light and some little accessories from them last five years.

[alchresearch]

The last few Saturdays the traffic to Leeds Ikea has been queuing back onto the motorway.

[psynuk]

12 1/2 year ago this topic was started on SF and it is still going.

We don't shop much at Ikea anymore, had a kitchen tap, one ceiling light and some little accessories from them last five years.

 

I know, it's absolutely amazing it's taken soooo long to get a shop built in a city as sprawling as Sheffield.

We might have rebuilt the ski slope by the 2080's.

[the fonz]

Will this be a highway improvement that actually makes it easier and quicker for motorists to get into and out of the area?

 

It isn't really Ikeas job to make it better, the improvements are designed to ensure it doesn't get any worse.

 

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From past performance I'm expecting scc to install enough traffic lights to make the area visible from the moon, a bus lane,and cause traffic queues in every direction for miles around.:loopy:

 

SCC wont be installing anything.

[Berberis]

Turning down a planning application doesn't cost "millions". A bit of officer time and maybe a lawyer to represent you at the planning inquiry. A few thousands, nothing remotely like "millions of pounds".

 

I suspect the OP was referring to the total cost up until this point where the application is turned down.

[Planner1]

I suspect the OP was referring to the total cost up until this point where the application is turned down.

 

This was the OP that said the Council had spent millions "fighting " the Ikea application, which is quite simply untrue.

 

The Council have not turned down any planning application from Ikea. This one was approved after the normal discussions you would expect of a development of this size and the previous one they made for the old YE site on Parkway Avenue was withdrawn by Ikea following a number of objections being received.

 

The Council have not "fought" the Ikea application at all. It desn't cost much to deal with a planning application, they already employ development management staff to do this, so processing an application like this doesn't cost them anything extra.

 

The application they "fought" and turned down was Next Home Store. Turning down an application doesn't cost much. As I metioned, the staff involved already work for the Council, so there is no additional cost, unless you have to pay for some specalist advice you don't have the expertise for in-house. The cost actually comes after you turn down the application, at the planning appeal, where you engage a barrister to represent you. That costs a few thousands, not "millions" or anything like it.

 

People bandy costs around and say things cost "millions" when they haven't got the faintest idea how much those things really cost. They really ought to know better.

[alchresearch]

This story still amuses me, especially this bit:

 

He also said Ikea plan would ‘probably’ cause a small number of ‘additional premature deaths’.

 

http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/business/sheffield-ikea-store-gets-go-ahead-1-6691563