Hambeast Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 This story still amuses me, especially this bit: http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/business/sheffield-ikea-store-gets-go-ahead-1-6691563 Aye those meatballs could get stuck in a throat or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 This was the OP that said the Council had spent millions "fighting " the Ikea application, which is quite simply untrue. Oh right sorry, my bad. I should have read the OP's comments more closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Arctor Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 This was the OP that said the Council had spent millions "fighting " the Ikea application, which is quite simply untrue. The Council have not turned down any planning application from Ikea. This one was approved after the normal discussions you would expect of a development of this size and the previous one they made for the old YE site on Parkway Avenue was withdrawn by Ikea following a number of objections being received. The Council have not "fought" the Ikea application at all. It desn't cost much to deal with a planning application, they already employ development management staff to do this, so processing an application like this doesn't cost them anything extra. The application they "fought" and turned down was Next Home Store. Turning down an application doesn't cost much. As I metioned, the staff involved already work for the Council, so there is no additional cost, unless you have to pay for some specalist advice you don't have the expertise for in-house. The cost actually comes after you turn down the application, at the planning appeal, where you engage a barrister to represent you. That costs a few thousands, not "millions" or anything like it. People bandy costs around and say things cost "millions" when they haven't got the faintest idea how much those things really cost. They really ought to know better. It's refreshing to see something on SF from someone who actually knows what they are talking about. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 The last few Saturdays the traffic to Leeds Ikea has been queuing back onto the motorway. I went last Saturday lunchtime. No queue, straight in and out. No problem at all. Took me longer to make the bookcase than it did to buy it. I still have a bit left over if you'd like it:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBiz Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Absolute rubbish. The Council didn't fight Ikea's planning application at this site, they approved it, despite the fact that they recognise it will make traffic conditions worse (and they've conditioned some highway improvements on the Ikea store development to mitigate this, at least partly). The Next Home Store was the one they didn't approve but the decision was [/b]overturned at appeal. Turning down a planning application doesn't cost "millions". A bit of officer time and maybe a lawyer to represent you at the planning inquiry. A few thousands, nothing remotely like "millions of pounds". So why did SCC turn the Next application down, and why was SCC's decision overturned at appeal i.e which planning rules/guidelines etc had SCC not complied with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas J Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 This story still amuses me, especially this bit: http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/business/sheffield-ikea-store-gets-go-ahead-1-6691563 Not really a laughing matter, though. The additional deaths are expected from the worsening air quality as a result of the extra traffic. At the moment, it is estimated about 500 people a year die as a result of poor air quality - NO2, etc, which is mostly from traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambeast Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 So why did SCC turn the Next application down, and why was SCC's decision overturned at appeal i.e which planning rules/guidelines etc had SCC not complied with? From what I remember, the Council wanted Next to build the store in the city centre instead and rejected it mainly on this basis, it was reversed as the decision had no basis in planning law and regulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 From what I remember, the Council wanted Next to build the store in the city centre instead and rejected it mainly on this basis, it was reversed as the decision had no basis in planning law and regulation. Sheffield council lives in a dream fantasy world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Has anyone been to the Next store? I went once to the Bathstore franchise there but I noticed there seemed to be more staff than customers while I was there, I did not buy from the Bathstore or Next and never went back. Has anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 So why did SCC turn the Next application down, and why was SCC's decision overturned at appeal i.e which planning rules/guidelines etc had SCC not complied with? SCC turned it down because they felt it did not comply with the adopted planning policy and could damage retail in the city centre. They said it did not pass the sequential test for retail. See: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-23182687 The planning inspector didn't agree with them. They said it did pass the sequential test. See: http://www.njlconsulting.co.uk/news-and-blogs/news/national-planning-policy-framework-sequential-test-more-guidance-please/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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