John X Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 When the State and the People have to do the supporting of Bankers and Global Corporations in order to survive that is a different matter. You have a very bizarre (mis)understanding of economics! John X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaimani Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Do you believe that universal democracy would be counter productive? universal democracy and national socialism are not one and the same. i yearn for the former. but there can be no universal democracy if national socialism takes prominence as each country would have to do what's best for itself above all else. can you not see the inherent tension between the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPat Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 You have a very bizarre (mis)understanding of economics! John X 'twas you that stated that Industry supported and thereby benefitted from support of National Socialism. Are you admitting to a)misunderstanding economics b) illiteracy or c) both the aforementioned ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaimani Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 So with that in mind what do you really think of the British as a nation? like every other nation under the sun; the British have a lot of good points(both historically, present and looking towards tomorrow) and the have a lot of bad points too. to want to say it's all good is foolhardy or naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPat Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 universal democracy and national socialism are not one and the same. i yearn for the former. but there can be no universal democracy if national socialism takes prominence as each country would have to do what's best for itself above all else. can you not see the inherent tension between the two? You don't subscribe to the view that National Governments should give primacy to the Interests of their People and State? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaimani Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 You don't subscribe to the view that National Governments should give primacy to the Interests of their People and State? i do. that's just good governance. but nationalism goes beyond that. and to say nationalism would lead to universal democracy when you agree that governments have to put their own people first seems odd to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPat Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 i do. that's just good governance. but nationalism goes beyond that. and to say nationalism would lead to universal democracy when you agree that governments have to put their own people first seems odd to me. I am not saying that National Socialism would lead to universal democracy, You stated earlier that it would be counter productive if all countries adopted National Socialism, I merely asked if universal democracy would be counter productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaimani Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I am not saying that National Socialism would lead to universal democracy, You stated earlier that it would be counter productive if all countries adopted National Socialism, I merely asked if universal democracy would be counter productive. your question seemed to imply that national socialism would lead to universal democracy. if i got you wrong, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPat Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 your question seemed to imply that national socialism would lead to universal democracy. if i got you wrong, my bad. You did get me wrong, however, the fault is mine I phrased it badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John X Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 'twas you that stated that Industry supported and thereby benefitted from support of National Socialism. I said capitalism, not industry. Not the same thing. John X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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